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a friend of mine from aceclub.net was looking for some performance parts for his avenger, and found these for the escort, and he sent me the following link.

http://www.speedyperformanceparts.com/p ... der_z.html

my question is, does anyone have these, & are these any good? and for the '91-96 LX headers, which one do i choose? i see no real difference other than in price (by $2).

-dan

p.s. oh yeah, and if these headers turn out to be garbage, anyone know of any other good manufacturers to direct me to who make headers?
 

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Don't waste your money on pacesetter stuff... it's garbage. The best headers out there are made for escorts are made by gude and genie. You can also custom make exhaust headers. I've got a friend at RPI who is doing his, but those will cost you about 200 to 400 bucks in parts alone... and you do all the cutting and welding yourself. So you have to be pretty insane to do that stuff. However, you can get some insanely slick headers that are custom made for turbocharging applications that way, which is what he is doing.

But if you're doing something for a 1.9L LX... damn. I'd hate to burst your bubble, but that engine kinda sucks in the high range imo, which is where headers really shine. The real bottleneck of that engine is in the valve head, not the exhaust system. So if you were to swap one of the older valve heads over, then a new header may be a good thing to have, but you'd see the nicest powerband gains if you start with the valve head. If somebody else could verify my opinions...
 

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gude does not and will not reproduce headers for the 1.8 scort, i have tried, even with some if his sponsored drivers ask,

pacesetter is still loking for a 1.8 so they can finish redesighning a new header, they were suppoased to have a 1.9 already, if not just go with a 1st gen gt ho header!

and later gt came with a 4-1 cast iron header!
 

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Come on guys...it won't cost 400 US bucks to build your own header man.... 1,5 inch diameter 16 gauge stainless steel pipes will cost you maybe what....20 $ for a 8 feet long pipe... 6 $ for good ol steel....

now...you can buy a stock exhaust manifold from any JY....35 $ at most...

then you cut off the connecting plate
then you bend your pipes or pay a metal shop to do it for you and you weld them on your connecting plate or pay for a shop to weld them for you if you don't own a TIG or MIG welder....

then you buy or build 2 Y adapters....and then you reunite them in 1 larger diameter pipe with another Size Y adapter...then you weld a flange..and voila :)

its done.... ok...its not that easy to cut the connecting plate off your oem exhaust manifold ahaha...but its doable with a good saw, blades, lots of oil and patience !

and if you dont own a welder go get one and it will last you forever and you'll save tons of money on customising jobs and youll get better and better and one day your friends will pay you to build them stuff on your free time :p

Total costs : 2 x 8 foot steel pipes = 12 $
1 exhaust manifold from J/Y = 20-35$
Trip to the welding shop (should not take more then 1 hour to lay down 10 welds...seriously...30 minutes if your slow...) =35 $ / hour
Trip to the bending shop = 35 $/hour
3 x 15$ y adapter = 45$
1 exhaust flange = 10$
1 exhaust gasket = 20$
1 flange gasket = 3 $
2 bolts and nuts = 5 $
1 spray can of high heat temp paint = 6 $

with overrated prices and as if you could do absolutely nothing with your 2 hands...for a total costs of : 206 $ ...Proud felt when showing your ride with its new custom made header to your friends....Priceless :) sorry i couldn't help it :p
 

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well your 90% right... except ten welds in an hour!? God I wish. Not quality welds. Especially not if you are doing proper prep and cleanup. Not to mention this gets you crush bent bends. Not exactly going to add anything to the car.
 

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Yeah... about 400 dollars. I'm sure.

You need to buy laser cut flanges and MIG or TIG weld everything together. And I'm talking high quality stainless steel. If you're going to spend hours cutting and welding this stuff together, you buy the best stuff.

You could buy cheap steel, but you'd be wasting your time and money.

Either way, the headers I've seen created this way are so insanely sexy. This is only if you're really serious about it though. You've got to have a real passion and a lot of money if you want to go this route.

For all intensive purposes, I'd say your money is better spent elsewhere, personally.
 

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hummm..no you can make mandrel-bent like elbow bent at home ...

you only need a torch, sand, and one 6 tons and + hydro-lift that is manually activated.....

Whenever i'll go back to my father's place ill take pics of my bending machine :) pretty simple but effective..
and the bents are pretty smooth....
 

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True true but why bother with all that work to get something that is "pretty smooth". When Mandrel bends are fairly cheap. I've found a better supplier myself so if someone needs some for their own project let me know I'd be happy to ship some wherever.
 

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but, with all that said, would it hurt to throw in the pacesetter headers at all?
from what i hear, it's a good combination along with a full-on exhaust package including the hi-flow cat.

anyone?
 
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