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Saturn still has contracts with GM to build its current model lineup. After that they plan to look to bring over cars not sold in the US.
 

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yeah after I asked that I learned that Penske will be paying GM to make the Vue, Aura, and Outlook. It didn't say anything about the Astra. That brings me to a question arising from Matt's post saying after the contract it would be cars not sold in the US. Like from anybody?
 

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The Astra's plug got pulled. The article says Penske is in talks with manufacturers around the world about building Saturn cars in the future. I assume this means rebadged versions of any other car from where ever they can get them depending on what Saturn wants.

On a side note did you know some Chinese company wants to buy Hummer?
 

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What exactly did they buy?
Hummer's not a company, just a name, not that that's not a valuable asset.
GM didn't buy AM General, just the rights to the name Hummer, since '99. AM General makes the H2 for GM using GMs platform. GM makes the H3 itself. AM General continued to build its military stuff separate from the GM association.
While the original Humvee was discontinued for public sale they are still making it for the military(I could be wrong on that but if the government doesn't want more Humvees what do they buy?), but for themselves and not GM, the 2006 discontinument(is that a word?) making it none of GMs business.

Trivia:
The Hummer brand and the Jeep brand share a trademark 7 slot grille. This is no coincidence. There has been litigation on this.
It goes something like this:
Willys Overland, the maker of the WWII JEEP, and in '63 changed its name to Kaiser-Jeep, They then bought the just closed Studebaker plant. After American Motors bought Kaiser-Jeep in '70, they changed its name to Jeep Corporation. Coincidentally Jeep's head office was moved to Wayne, MI, home of the Escort! Anyway, The next year The Jeep corp's business and operations were spun off and a separate (but wholly owned by AMC) company was formed from it and named AM General. It operated separately from AMC. AMC would build and market Jeep products and AM General began work on military vehicles. They had the right to use the 7 slot grille. in '79 they moved to Detroit. They soon began developing what would be the M998 series HMMWV, or High Mobility Multi Purpose Wheeled Vehicle. Pet name: Humvee.

But in '83, They sold AM General to LTV corp(because Renault bought controlling interest in AMC then and military contractors cannot be foreign owned) who AFAIK only serves the military and does missle guidance and stuff, and had minor name changes due to company restructuring etc, several times, but it always ended in AM General division. In '93 Renco bought AM General from LTV.
In '03 Crysler sued over the 7 slots, but lost due to the AMC/Jeep history.
Today AM General and Standard Taxi are developing a purpose built Taxi. I think it's called the Taxinator lol.
 

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Since Hummer is now a Chinese company they will probably slap their badge on this and sell it here. lol
 

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Since Hummer is now a Chinese company they will probably slap their badge on this and sell it here. lol
Despite what you might think, there were survivors in that crash. The bystander watching from across the room was only paralyzed from the neck down when that huge piece of jagged metal flew off the car like it never bolted on in the first place and nearly took his head off.
 

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I am boldly predicting Saturn badged made in China cars in little more than 2 years.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you, the "new" Saturn Aura.
 

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Never happen. Do you guys not realize the quality products Penske makes thruout the automotive industry?? Watch closely fella's, we're going to see a good number of quality, small euro cars here as rebadged saturns.
 

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They can't just throw a bunch of quality cars that Americans will actually buy out there. How the heck are GM, Chrysler and Ford suppose to compete? You see what they have to offer... most of you are riding around in one of their buckets.
 
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