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Gear ratio

Discussion in '2nd Gen 1991-1996 1.9L SOHC' started by Jdeshler, Jan 23, 2016.

  1. Jdeshler

    Jdeshler FEOA Member

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    I have searched until I was blue and have only come up with a thread or two about changing ratios and all I come up with was changing the transmission because it couldn't be done..

    Is this so, what about a posi?

    If I can go with a posi then their has to be a way to change the gears..
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    Pizzaman5000 FEOA Donator

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    no posi that I know of for a 1.9 tranny. MTX is possible
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    I was thinking a lower ring+pinion gear.. If that is absurd I apologize, this is the first FWD car I have ever attempted to modify in any way.. I was thinking maybe a lower gear like in a rwd for a little more of a kick in the pants..
  5. ShakeZilla19

    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    Swapping the trans is the only way to get better ratios. The stock f-series trans is fairly weak. The Zx2 g-series has the best gearing for acceleration; 4.10 final. You cannot swap parts from the g-series to the f-series.
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    Okay cool, thanks for the info guys!
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    What is the reason none of you mavericks have attempted this, is it just easier/cheaper to swap in a better transmission? Just can't get my head away from the thought is all..
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    in the Auto there is no room or tolerance for different size gears or to mess with the ratios (take one apart and see for your self).
    I put a wavy spring ring on the wrong side of a snap ring once and grenade the whole transmission beyond repair, and these cars are not popular enough with the tuners for companies to consider rengineering or make after market performance Packages, the manual trans especially because its so weak.
    You can still get rebuild and shift kits to make it shift better and help it not wear as fast but thats all your going to find for the most part. the best and only real option for better gear ratios or trans in general is a swap.
    The diff and the diff compartment in these transmissions are so small I'm surprised a WOT at a stop doesn't destroy it let alone the ability to squeeze a LSD in there.
    sorry man Escorts are not tuner cars or a good candidate get performance from:thumbsdown:

    found a post on here that had the stock gear ratios figured I'd repost:
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    Manual Transmissions
     
        Model        1st     2nd    3rd    4th    5th    Rev    Final
    
    91+ 1.8         3.307   1.833  1.310  1.030  0.795  3.166   4.105
    91+ 1.9         3.416   1.842  1.290  0.972  0.731  3.214   3.619
    91-93 1.9fs     3.416   1.700  1.151  0.868  0.731  3.214   3.409
    97+ SPI         3.307   1.833  1.233  0.914  0.717  3.166   3.850
    98-99 ZX2       3.307   1.833  1.310  1.030  0.795  3.166   4.100
    99.5+ ZX2*      3.307   1.833  1.233  0.914  0.730  3.166   4.100
    
    * This is an educated guess biased on information from teamZX2. Supposedly, 3rd, 4th, and 5th on the later zx2's were longer with the 5th being a 0.730 so I am guessing that 3rd and 4th would be the same as on the SPI.
    
                                   Automatic Transmissions
    
         Model           1st     2nd    3rd     4th/OD   Rev    Final
    
    91-96 1.8            2.800   1.540  1.000   0.700   2.333   3.736
    91-96 1.9            2.800   1.540  1.000   0.700   2.333   3.550
    91-96 1.9 CA         2.800   1.540  1.000   0.700   2.333   4.060
    95-96 wagon          2.800   1.540  1.000   0.700   2.333   4.060
    97+ SPI and ZX2      2.800   1.540  1.000   0.700   2.333   3.736
    
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2016
  9. Intuit

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    He's not aiming for crazy numbers on the HP. IIRC he mentioned 120s before. Any manual transmission can be destroyed with bad-shifting. For the amount of stock power they're running with, 88-127hp, the 2nd-Gen man-trans seem to be pretty stout.
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    There is a way to get a 4.38:1 final drive transmission with LSD that will bolt into your car:

    1. Pick up a g-series from a 97+ escort SPI and the various related parts needed for the install (flywheel, clutch, axles, mounts, etc.). While you're at it you might as well buy the 2.0 and install that at the same time.
    2. Pick up a g-series from a Mazda MX3 1.8 V6
    4. Order a 26 spline g-series LSD from MFactory
    5. Take both transmissions apart.
    6. Set aside the guts from the escort transmission.
    7. Take the final drive gear off of the stock 28 spline MX3 diff, install it onto the 26 spline LSD.
    8. Install the guts from the MX3 transmission and your new LSD into the escort housing.
    9. Upon reassembly, you might as well use the escort 5th gear for better gas mileage.
    10. Profit?

    This will actually work but I don't think anyone has ever done it.
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    Yes you can put the right guy in a d9 cat or Deere skidder and they will break the hell out if it.. I do plan on swapping transmissions solely on the lack of after market for the cute little pumpkin automatic transmission.. I do honestly like the way the little guy shifts...
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    Excellent Info!! Sounds like you have a transmission game-plan.. I thoroughly enjoy Frankensteining things in ways never engineered making them mechanically better
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    Couldn't of said it better my self, even though these car have 88 hp I kind think they are fun to drive, Especially in the mountains with graded dirt roads :thumbsup:
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    One very important thing to do if you have a manual trans - is to check the fluid level from time to time.
    I do mine annually, and after 6 years and 80k miles of driving, it finally needed half a cup of ATF. Back in 2009 I checked it once a month couple of times; but it didnt go down, and the outside of the transmission was staying dry. I had replaced its output seals when I got the car, along with installing the new clutch.
    I fixed up a 94LX wagon last summer, whose 5-speed had a stuck VSS, and not more than half a cup of fluid left in it. Its problems with shifting were the reason she stopped using the car.
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    Thanks. I did quite a bit of G-series research and frankensteining years ago, but after breaking a bunch of them I gave up and put a toyota camry gearbox in the car.

    The weirdest combo i ever used was:
    97 kia sephia case & axles
    00 escort lx gears
    Quaife LSD for a 626/MX6/Probe

    Bolted right into my 95 EGT with the GTR motor. I was trying to go the opposite direction of you... i had zero traction in 1st gear with the stock 4.10's so switching to the 3.85 final drive SPI gearset was marginally helpful. Well, until it blew up 5k miles later :(
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    Thanks for the tip, I will make sure to keep an eye on it!
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    I know that made you sick.. It would be like me finally getting around to a bigger hpop and injectors for my powerstroke diesel, getting used to the glory then loosing a motor!
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    I did read that it wouldn't work but imagine a sohc 4.0 from a Taurus in our little go karts. That would be a BEAST
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