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Discussion in '2nd Gen 1991-1996 1.9L SOHC' started by axa, Jun 27, 2017.

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    axa FEOA Member

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    Personally I dont think anyone is going around making 'fake' filler neck hoses. Making them to poor production standards is a possibility.

    I have a relative who worked in a Dayco manufacturing facility in Sparta NC, until the head company closed the plant and moved production to a plant in Mexico. That was 4 or 5 years ago.

    Another relative, a Mexican, works in a Mahle plant in Saltillo in Mexico. There are more robots there than human workers (and the bots all say Toyota on the sides). Working non-stop 24-7, the plant makes many hundreds of pistons daily, along with piston rings. None of the products are touched by human hands, from first casting/machining through being boxed for shipping. The relative's job involves inspecting/analyzing readouts from the computers that control the robots. He is fluent in English, but ALL of the readouts are in Spanish and Japanese; English isnt even one of the language choices.
    Every 90 days the plant stops producing, and a squad of about 20 gray haired Japanese techs from Toyota come in and spend two days going over the robots. He said some of them speak english (his fluency helped him get the job) and a few of them speak Spanish with heavy accents.
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    Interesting insight on modern car parts factories. With the lack of large numbers of workers, I wonder why it is attractive to have the factory in Mexico.
    Perhaps less regulatory and compliance costs?
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    Lax labor and emissions laws and or enforcement. No UAW. No real tariff barriers. Indifferent consumers.
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    If you are judging by the effort or costs in physical producing an item, there is less room to benefit. And I dont think any hoses are made by people anymore, so you cant compete on that. but labor is not where all the cost are saved.

    Years ago I read a report focused at the large profit to be made from substituting synthetic materials that can resistance chemical abrasion (think gas) for mixtures that cant or cant do it well. Which is eerily familiar here. Manual labor is already reduced, there fore if the cost of your materials are significantly reduced now you have intensive again.


    A quick google search will confirm such things:

    https://medium.com/@veridocglobal/eliminating-counterfeit-auto-parts-89c50533cba5

    that article estimates a third of parts bought online are fake.

    https://www.worldtrademarkreview.co...rts-increasingly-putting-consumer-safety-risk


    The same is true in the semiconductor industry where im familiar. My last employer would see products reaching 50% counterfeit for popular products. And this was not even things purchased by consumers but in a tight supply chain for production.

    We used similar labor in factories, we knew well in the long run what made it profitable was the the dirt cheap materials used, the difference between pure silicon and almost pure silicon was like 10 fold.
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    everything is made in south china by 8year old kids now. all built to a price point. there are no 'quality' parts anymore
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    Obligatory:
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    Remember, YOU are the only quality control that most items receive.
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    Nothing is built to last anymore. Most people hold onto a car 5 years then get rid of them. The reality is that most of my cars should have been replaced at least 5 times by now. I also have inherited a 67 bug and a 56 Chevy so those should have been recycled into something else who knows how many times. I think even aftermarket parts are of the mindset that you will get rid of the car instead of holding onto it long enough that the new part will fail again even if it has a short service life. New owner would be oblivious that the part only last two years and would go out and buy the same junk. I think the best bet is to buy a section of bulk hose because commercial industries do not tolerate these shenanigans. Look for places that make custom hydraulic hoses for construction and farm equipment, lines for trucks, or as someone else suggested hose off the roll at Napa or a real parts store.

    P.S. I just bought an injector cleaner setup and the fuel lines on it are only rated for air usage. Any guesses on how long those will last?
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    The irony is, of course, that there is more material choice all the time so parts could be made of really good material, for a small increase in price.

    Could you show some pictures of your injector cleaner?
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    I will make a review of it on Amazon. Will take pics too it's on one of my cars in storage. It's like the BG kit stuff but made cheaply. The OTC is like $280 with the adapter I need and this one was only $100. But OTC uses a quick disconnect to the adapters that swivel and this one screws adapter to adapters. One bump and things come loose and leak. I am using it to provide fuel pressure to move my car around with a bad fuel pump but don't trust it much.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HXJDG3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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    Interesting. I'd check the MSDS of the "Berryman" cleaning solution and see about buying generic chemical solvents.

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