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Fuel Fuel Hose, tank to filler neck, how long should it last...

Discussion in '2nd Gen 1991-1996 1.9L SOHC' started by axa, Jun 27, 2017.

  1. axa

    axa FEOA Member

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    I bough this hose from amazon in 2014, and put it in use not 3 years ago
    Motorcraft KFL22 Fuel Line Assembly

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000V52EV2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    but the hose was cracked at both ends at, leaking fairly bad from at least one...
    They were badly cracked at the, how to say, where they contacted the barbed ridges.
    Unless i got a knock off, i cant see why this hose wore out so fast.
    I replaced the original clamps for standard screw tighten hose clamps
    Its not possible to tighten hose clamps too tight is it?

    I got to replace it asap and wonder if better to find other hose.
    What say you?
  2. marclar

    marclar Moderator Staff Member

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    my guess is that its probably "new old stock". just replace it. can you post a pic of the failure?
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    I replaced one, at least 7 years ago. It hasnt begun leaking again. I also used regular screw clamps. I have bought a couple of extras of the Motorcraft hoses, since I expect the hoses on my other four 2nd gen. Escorts to start leaking eventually.
    I dont recall where I got them, but it wasnt from Amazon.
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  4. axa

    axa FEOA Member

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    well my first one lasted near 18 years and didnt actually fail so i got to wonder about this one.
    im going to take a pic when i get home, easy cuz i just got gas and had to jack the rear up high enough that it would pour back up the hose and leak....
  5. axa

    axa FEOA Member

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    filler end
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    tank end
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    pretty sure the filler end is what leaks, look close you see a long crack on the edge, but havn't got it off yet.
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  6. dchawk81

    dchawk81 FEOA Member

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    I bought a ball of rubber bands from Amazon once. They were in the same condition. Most of them broke before I could use them.
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  7. axa

    axa FEOA Member

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    makes sense. so do these things have date codes?
  8. Joey_Twowagons

    Joey_Twowagons FEOA Member

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    Wow, that hose looks fifty years old!

    As mentioned, originals last a long time (I still have mine, although I did buy a spare recently).

    I've only ever seen the replacements marked "Motorcraft" or "Ford", it seems there is no aftermarket ones. I didn't notice any Chinese knockoffs listed on ebay, so it seems all the available ones are Ford brand, although that might not mean much.

    The spare I recently bought is made in Mexico, but a Ford part. I sometimes wonder if an OEM branded service part is really the same as, or as good as, the original production part. It seems to me that back in the '90s, Ford could have bought their fuel hoses from ABC rubber company in Cincinnati, now closed down. Then later, they could have accepted a bid from "Three Amigos manufacturing" out of Oaxaca to supply replacements for their parts departments. So the replacement part is still a genuine Ford part.
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    ABC Rubber Company refocused its efforts and became Takata.

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  10. axa

    axa FEOA Member

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    or rather lost focus....

    while it will could have been Three Amigos manufacturing, I've the inclination that it was "Happy Lucky" drywall and imitation rubber out of Shanghai. for I imagine Ford still has a strict set of parameter for it's hoses regardless of the OEM.
    and there's just no place for fake goods more than China.

    it was a dangerous leak though, lost about 2 gallons off the top over 2 hours.
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    It makes me wonder if the hoses would have held up better, if the gasoline did not have ethanol in it.
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  12. axa

    axa FEOA Member

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    check these photos out, this hose used for 2.5 years, failed in ways no hose should.
    while the original lasted 18 and never did actually fail...

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    axa FEOA Member

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    others in Amazon posted about quick failures, my new part has a 2016 manufacture date so, in lieu of being out right counterfeit which I suspect, perhaps I'll get a few good years...

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    I suspect that the fact that they are often already old when you get them that is making them fail prematurely.
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    Itchigo FEOA Member

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    I had a rusted filler neck so I used an exhaust pipe, and was able to use fresh fuel filler hose off the roll. Been going for 5 years now. The other hose is a golf shaft and a piece of fuel line hose. 130926_0002.jpg 130926_0003.jpg
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    The price of replacements seems to be going up, it took me about a year of waiting on ebay before my auto search found a reasonably cheap hose. That combined with dubious quality makes Itchigo's substitute look like it will become the better alternative.

    Axa, could you post pictures of the inside of the perished hose? I am wondering if there is more deterioration on the outside, as opposed to the inside.
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    FWIW, I bought 3 of them off of Rockauto not too long ago for what struck me as a fair price (like... $12/ea or something?). I see Spectra also has a listing for the hose, but I'm not sure of availability. So... If you think you need one it may be worth just checking on Rock from time to time to see if they end up with a buyout from some warehouse or something. I know I didn't spend much on the ones I ordered.

    I'm also pretty sure a straight section of hose from NAPA and a little patience with the heat gun would get you a suitable replacement. I think stuff that size is generally around $20/ft and 12" would get you 2 of them.
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    Itchigo FEOA Member

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    I think I paid like $5-7 for that hose, and $6 for the exhaust elbow.

    Joey: And they said in school I'd never amount to anything!;)
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    Maxwelhse FEOA Member

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    I was going to make a joke here about not wanting to assault my car with a putter, but I'm unable to find the appropriate Dogma link. ;)
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    Itchigo FEOA Member

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    Lol. I used to have a sideline custom building full sets of clubs. I thought of it very simply, a filler neck is just a pipe. What could I use that's cheap and will hold gas? Besides, I have enough broken shafts with my swing... (I tried to drive a par 4 421 yards, and got within 75 yards of the green).
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    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm waiting for a call from Commissioner Gordon.:)

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