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Ford canceling all cars except mustang and focus crossover

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  1. Intuit

    Intuit FEOA Member

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    First place to start to loose the clear coat on the 'scort was the hood, right above the car battery. (heat) That under hood insulation may serve more purpose than just noise insulation.

    I wasn't happy that they were still putting a CD Player in a 2016. Other manufacturers had quit doing that by then. Did a poll and the overwhelming majority of people literally never used it. I converted and pitched all of my CDs many years ago.
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    The last two aftermarket radios I bought had a usb slot for a thumb drive of MP3 music. They have cd/dvd drives too, but so far havent used those.
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  3. focus2000

    focus2000 FEOA Member

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    Don't get me wrong not having a CD wouldn't have influenced my purchase decision but its still nice to have, back in 2013 I bought a used focus and it came with 60s gold. That CD is now in my new fusion so when the Radio or Pandora is playing crap or I don't have reception I turn it to 60s gold. its got the so happy together song, magic carpet ride, give me some a lovin, hot town summer in the city all that great stuff!
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  4. Itchigo

    Itchigo FEOA Member

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    You know the NEW 1995's now come with touchscreens....:eek:


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  5. Bas1c973sco

    Bas1c973sco FEOA Member

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    Why not just get a Focus ST or a Focus hatch with a 5 speed? They’re not much bigger than an escort and have way more room on the inside and are almost bulletproof (if you get the manual).


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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    Can you buy a Focus that has a regular single clutch with clutch pedal?
    I read about problems with the Focus cars having the power-shift dual-clutch transmission bad enough for huge class action lawsuits.
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    zzyzzx FEOA Member

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    As long as it's made before the 2012 model year, yes.
    Newer ones (2012+, when applicable) with the smaller turbo engine and automatic transmission have a regular automatic transmission. Unfortunately, they only made that for the sedan only.
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  8. Intuit

    Intuit FEOA Member

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    Too big. Fiesta ST (FiST) was just right. Not too big, not too small. I actually test drove a Focus ST (FoST), and was offered a much lower price. Like the FiST, the FoST is also a six speed and is only available as a hatch; totally different suspension and engine versus other Focus trims. Wasn't comfortable with forum comments surrounding the 2.0L turbo. It also didn't help that the dealer tried to push off one with a loping idle and flat-spotted tire(s). Regardless, it's too pig... I mean big. FiST is nearly 200HP while FoST is nearly 250HP. But too big.
  9. Cymmantix

    Cymmantix My old archenemy, RAKES!

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    I used to drive a 2013 Focus sedan with the automated manual for work. Everything bad you heard about the transmission is true. I just got used to it feeling broken all the time, and planned my maneuvers in traffic based on the delay in engaging the accelerator and the car actually moving. I actually did like the car outside of the trans.
    You could get a traditional manual transmission in the Focus, but as you might expect - these are a lot harder to find.
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    marclar Moderator Staff Member

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    i would recommend to avoid all ecoboost engines. been seeing catastrophic failures of all builds. our shop doesn't even work on them anymore because of all the issues with them.

    there is ALWAYS something that goes wrong. they always come back with something else exploded weeks later.
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    Sounds like I will have to keep my Escorts running for a few more years.
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    Too big? Lol it’s barely bigger than an escort, I had a hatchback as a work vehicle and I loved the size and trunk space. A lot is zip for a naturally aspirated. That sucks that the dealer was pushy. Personally I like the FoST, then again, I’ve never driven an FiST, heard good things about modding both.


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    There are a ton of backyard engineers (a.k.a. modders) who are convinced that you can't damage an engine unless you hang a part. Reality of course says, it's just as easy to damage an engine via programming. So they change the programming, compromise it in some way, revert the programming, then take in for repair... often under warranty. It's a problem.

    Other than the heat issues of the 2015 and older models, haven't seen any issues (that weren't user-induced) in the forums with the 1.6L EB in the Fiesta ST.

    Hehe, dealer wasn't pushy. Just useless is all. They were only interested in selling what they had on the lot... and later discovered that they were merely like most of the others in that regard. I at least respected the others in that, they didn't waste my time.

    Take off the quick-release front wheel, fold down the rear seats and stick the ten speed (27" wheels) in the back. That's pretty much what I did with the 'scort. Have my amp and tube back there for premium sound like the 'scort. Some of the things I was used to carrying, like backup fluids, come to find out I didn't need to. Didn't even use that stuff even back then. So I'm good! :) The lighter weight affords a forgiving almost go-cart like handling. It's not my motorcycle, but it's as close as I'm going to get and still have some capacity for utility. No regrets... I'd need a truck to haul a couch or other furniture; other normal stuff I can fit... so I don't see the need for a heavier, larger, Focus. (though I always like more HP - but not if it significantly compromises reliability)
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    you hit it right on the head man. when I used to work for dodge, we would get cummins trucks in for run-ability problems from time to time. of course the owners say they never did anything to it. some sort of power train warranty repair or service contract deal.
    our good ol buddies down at Chrysler, however, put a sweet little feature in the pcm that will tell you how many flashes the pcm has had...
    so if we got one that ran like shit, or had a grenaded piston, simply print out the data list where it shows 15 flashes, and MAGIC,... warranty voided.. thanks for playing
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    So my take on the Focus vs Fiesta deal is I drove both my friends fiesta's when they had them 1 is a 2015 1.0L ecoboost 5 speed, the other was a 2015 1.6 ST. The 1.0 is really fun to drive and gets great mileage feels like alot of car for the tiny motor size, the ST however has amazing handling and the pickup vs the 1.0 is like night and day. both cars had a ton of A/C actuator failures requiring many replacements.

    Around the same time they had their cars I had a 2015 Focus Sedan with the 1.0 Ecoboost and 6 speed stick. It had a very low first gear which is needed to get the 2900 pound car off the line, there was no sweet spot on the launch too little throttle and it fell on its face and you would have to wait for the turbo to kick back in and get you out of harms way. too much throttle and it was easily chirp the front tires and everyone would be looking at you lol. Mileage was over 40mpg but doing 90% town driving my average was usually about 29 mpg for the tank. The backseat was tiny and did not have much more room then the fiesta, it seemed to use space much less efficiently then the first gen focuses and felt porky like intuit said. I traded it in at a 2k loss and paid off the balance and drove my escort for a year till the balance was paid off.

    Next time around I went for the Fusion much bigger, much heavier but the torque from the electric motor gets it off the line no problem. the hybrid gets way better mileage then the 1.0 focus my lifetime average for the car is still at 40mpg which isn't bad considering the 90% town 10% freeway driving. when I do take long freeway trips I drive at 55 and can get over 50mpg on the highway trips, best I got was 55mpg on one trip. Still happy with the car and now with having a 1 year old daughter the size is much appreciated over the focus.

    So TLDR yes I would reccomend the Fiesta over a Focus in ST or 1.0L trim however between a 2.0 focus with a 5 speed and a regular 1.6 fiesta 5 speed then I would pick the focus since its got a timing chain. Also the 1.0 ecoboost has a "LUBED FOR LIFE" timing belt that runs in the engine oil. who knows how long it will last lol

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