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Did anyone else laugh there ass off when they saw those photos of Saddam´s statue being ripped down? I know I did. I usually don´t wish death upon people, but I hope that bomb got him when he was in that bunker. Thanks to the U.S. (and the Brits ;-) ) Saddam´s reign is over. I think the war is pretty much over. Sure there will be scattered resistance, and it will be a long time before real peace is established, but I think the worst is over. This is also good news because it means my dad can get the hell outa there and back home where he belongs. I wan´t to thank all the armed forces (British and American) for freeing the Iraqi people. No one should have to live under that kind of oppression with such a cruel leader, and now they don´t have to. LET FREEDOM RING!
 

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see, i just dont understand it i guess.. We didnt ask the iraqi ppl what they wanted, we just went in and said, btw, this is what freedom is...yeh some of them are cheering but what if another country came and attacted us and said, "here is what our country says is freedom" so be free w/ our missles and bombs and our soldiers messing up your towns...we are just being the bully´s
 

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Whether they wanted freedom or not, they got it. and now they´re going to continue to look to us to figure out what the f*&k to do with it.

I thought it was pretty funny myself. I was in radioshack getting a microphone and we were standing there watching it fall and a bunch of Iraqi´s immediately ran over to it and started dancing on it. LOL That was great.
But I´m thinking soon Bush will be sending a nice packet for prolly 50 billion bucks to the ´new´ iraqi government to rebuild Baghdad. Stupid people couldn´t overthrow their own damn dictator? boohoo he might kill us for rebelling...where´s the downside to that ultimatum?
I also thought it was hilarious that Sadam was using British made cell phones to talk on, while we can decipher and listen to his conversations. lol yeah and we can always pinpoint his exact location when he´s using it...not to smart I must say. ;-)
 

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see, heres what i see....

we already know that we are more powerful than them...therefore if they had attacked us later, we´d still be able to get them back...but now, when they havent done nething(yet) we are wasting money on rebuilding when i don tplan on goin there so thats some of my tax money going to a cause i didnt have a say in doing...i just dont think its fair...our gov says we are free we have all these choices, yet they can spend my money on whatever they want...where´s the freedom there... I just have a lot of problems with government in general, i dont like how our "God-given" right to be free can be altered by imperfect ppl who just have more money than me and can afford to make themselves our leaders and take that power do w/e they want...
 

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I see your point on us being thought of as a big "bully", but I have heard that argument before. The fact is that the U.S. IS one of the strongest nations in the world and it uses that power for what I think are good causes. Am I a big fan of this war, no. In fact I never wanted it to begin with. However, I am glad that its almost over and that it has not been as catostrophic as some thought it would be. By the way, do you honestly think that the Iraqi people enjoyed living under an evil dictator? One who killed off people in is own country. I doubt it. I pretty sure most of them are happy to have Saddam out of power. Also, because the U.S. believes in freedom, we will eventually set a government run by there own people so they can make there own decisions. We will simply be there as a referee to keep them in check and make sure they don´t revert back the ways of Saddam. And yes we did bomb there cities, but aren´t we giving them shitload of money and food to help them rebuild? Have you ever known a bully that would beat you up, take your lunch money, and give it back to you later because its the right thing to do? I didn´t think so.
 

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09-04-2003 at 19:42, 95EsortSittinLo wrote:
damn son your like einstein you got a smart/ most likely correct answer for everything ;-)
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Right. some of that is called an ´opinion´ you know what those are. you´ve been spurting them out yourself, and then you get all pissy to me when I state mine. I keep up with current affairs for the most part. If we´re all as naive as the Iraqi´s then Bush can go. "I´m a dictator now" and no one would know the difference, well that is until the militia came in and killed us all for no apparent reason. But I can´t tell are you being sarcastic? in which case I´d have to say I wish you´d come to Ft wayne so I could smear your face in the gutter water. or are you agreeing with me, again? :-?
 

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Dang, by the time I replied to that 4 other people already replied.

I am also not a fan of the government, but lets face it we do need one and so do the Iraqi people. Just because you don´t like political stuff doesn´t mean its an important aspect of our everyday lives. Countries have tried to live without governments, without taxes (ourselves included), and they have failed because there are too many people who take advantage of others. At least with a government those kinds people are regulated by other people who are regulated by still more others in a huge circle of checks and balances. And in the end the PEOPLE have the final say because THEY elect the leaders of the government. Imo, I would prefer to have a true democracy like the acient greeks did, where EVERY single person votes on the issues at hand. For the longest time this hasn´t been feasible because of the huge expanse of the U.S. There was simply no way to count all the votes. However, now that we live in a technilogical world, there are many ways that this type of goverment could be successful, and I think (or at least hope that) maybe someday it will end up happening.

Whew, that was a long one. I wonder how many people posted while I was typing that!
 

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09-04-2003 at 20:05, 2EGTS wrote:
Dang, by the time I replied to that 4 other people already replied.

And in the end the PEOPLE have the final say because THEY elect the leaders of the government. Imo, I would prefer to have a true democracy like the acient greeks did, where EVERY single person votes on the issues at hand. For the longest time this hasn´t been feasible because of the huge expanse of the U.S. There was simply no way to count all the votes. However, now that we live in a technilogical world, there are many ways that this type of goverment could be successful, and I think (or at least hope that) maybe someday it will end up happening.
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Yes the people have the say. but for those 2/3/4 years the politicians can do whatever they want. On your other point, we live in the world of the internet now, but not every single person in the US has access to it. The Amish don´t, for example :-] hehe
 

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you all are so young, you also dont realize that no matter what "the people?" say, the government will do what they want regardless of what the popular vote is. :hence the bush election; he wasnt elected by vote...
but as everyone says "IMO"
 
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