[Trashknight]

Alright i work at a ford dealership and so i see a lot of cars coming in every day and the other day we had a SVT Focus come in the shop. The Focus SVT is the 2.0 with the 6-speed manual in it. I really like the 6-speed so got to thinking about it and i asked our transmission guy some questions. I found out that the only real difference between the 2.0 motor in the SVT and the regular zetec was that it had different pistons and i think the cams were different but that the block was still the same. I also found out that the regular focus 2.0 has the same automatic transmission that is in the Escorts and the ZX2s, and since you can convert an auto EGT to a manual EGT i think that it would be very possible to convert it to a 6speed manual EGT. So from what he said i would think that it should blot up to the block but i am sure there would be some snags like the dual mass flywheel but all in all it seems like it would be very doable. I just thought i would throw that out there and see if anyone else had any thoughts on this and if anyone else has ever thought of it. Just think of it 6-speed scort :twisted:

 

[neuspeedescort]

three words for you Waste of Time! i rode in an SVT Focus and it only change the final drive by about 300rpms compared to my gen2gt.

NEUMAN

 

[James92Scort]

three words for you Waste of Time! i rode in an SVT Focus and it only change the final drive by about 300rpms compared to my gen2gt.

NEUMAN

yeah... but that 300 rpm would make a world of difference if it worked... kind of like comparing 3.23s to 3.73s when swapping them out in a Mustang GT.

There's a better aftermarket for the Focus SVT... like differentials and whatnot. Not to mention it's a newer tranny, & it's a 6 sp... that 6th gear will cause better gas mileage.

However... I don't think it'll work without tons of work and fabrication.

the 2.0 SPI and DOHC ZETEC will probably be minor fabrication, but the 1.8 isn't the predecessor to the 2.0, the 1.9 is.

I really think it'd be better for you to save the money and just rebuild the 5 speed thats already in the GT. You could easily get a new FD ratio with some new gearing.

 

[Trashknight]

the 2.0 SPI and DOHC ZETEC will probably be minor fabrication, but the 1.8 isn't the predecessor to the 2.0, the 1.9 is.

Yes i know this but the auto tranny in the 1.9 is the same auto tranny that is in the 1.8

 

[escortlx96]

Yes the 1.8 and 1.9 do share the same auto trannies but different manual trannies.Correct me if i am wrong.Since you work at the ford dealership check part numbers of the six speed tranny to the 1.8 tranny.Like case,gears and anything else related.I would be nice to see a gt with a 6 speed gear box.Alot of ford vehicles share same parts.Just do your research and you should be all set.

 

[Caymen]

I am betting the Tranny's are the same, but the case is different.

You could take the GT tranny and do a MX6 5th gear swap. That will cut like 300 RPM in the GT's 5th gear. You do almost the same thing, but you have to shift less.


Tom

 

[93EGTinLR]

I personally thought that if you were to find a torn up a.k.a wreced SVT Focus that still had a good drivetrain would be an awesome swap into a 2 gen gt or zx2..but I think in order to erally pull it off right you wold pretty much need the whole car to make sure you got the parts

 

[SgtRauksauff]

from everything that I've seen, even though the internals of the trannies might be the same, the bell housings are completely different, since the engine blocks are so different, between the mazda and ford products. you'd need an adapter plate or something to make it work.

It would be very very cool for autocross/road racing to have a 6-speed, though, because you'd not have that problem of a lot of corners being a little too fast for 2nd, but a little too slow for 3rd. At least, if the tranny had the right ratios, you shouldn't have that problem..

I drove an SVT focus the other day on a road/kart track, and it was ok, but the accelerator was so light that it almost seemed like a fly-by-wire pedal, and there wasn't a lot of feedback from the engine. The brakes kick ass, and the handling is pretty darned good, too. But the ratios seemed ok, although I think the engine could be a little beefier. or maybe the car needs to be lighter, or both.


--sarge

 

[Jeffescortlx]

from everything that I've seen, even though the internals of the trannies might be the same, the bell housings are completely different, since the engine blocks are so different, between the mazda and ford products. you'd need an adapter plate or something to make it work.

I'll have to agree with you there.
Yes the second gen Ford 1.9 is bolted to a tranny made by mazda, but the chances of the Ford bell housing bolt pattern matching a Mazda bolt patern is not good.

 

[SgtRauksauff]

I've actually got a 1.9 tranny and a 1.8 block sitting around at home. I should do a fitment and take a picture. Maybe I will, if i have time.

--sarge

 

[hotscort]

do it cause i might just be able to keep the scort if it works i have a GTX sitting in my garage that i was going to put in my GT but i no longer have the gt! so if it works in to the LX it goes

 

[chadgore]

been there thought of that but i was going to swap in the whole motor and trans, but the thing is that the svt trans is shifted by cables if im not mistaken, and the svt trans and the zx2 trans are diferent also in the fact that they mount to the car totaly different. ( trand mounts) do a comparison, youll see. but if you find any thing out differant let me know.

 

[1Sleepy93]

I'd definately be up for a 6 speed. But yeah if it's cable shifted then we are in for some serious fabrication.

 

[Electronikal]

Well..if the bolt pattern doesn't fit...you can always make a custom adaptor plate....and then pay a shop to weld it to your tranny casing...i've seen it done on RIde...cauz they used the Getrag tranny from a supra to bolt it on the v8 engine of the IS 430....

and everything was swapped in an IS 300....

 

[NumbaOneCuban]

I am betting the Tranny's are the same, but the case is different.

You could take the GT tranny and do a MX6 5th gear swap. That will cut like 300 RPM in the GT's 5th gear. You do almost the same thing, but you have to shift less.

Tom

can you tell me a little bit more about that. what year mx-6? it is the stick one right? does it swap right in? what is good and bad about doing this?