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What Mike.... No picture of where Chad worked?????????? :lol: :) :D


That was not a bad meet, except that the "Drive 120kph" rule went out the window five minutes outside Hamilton.... :/

By the time I got home, I had almost no feeling in my Clutch, it was like pressing your foot into Jello whenever I had to shift... Not good... :cry:

Oh, well.... I call the transmission place later today to see what they can do...

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Looks like Saajeevan's car is about one of the nicest Escorts out there.Looks like hes enjoying the fact that everyone is checking his car out.Looks like hes enjoying being there.Almost proud,I would say.Too bad he thinks investing in an Escort is a (quote) "BAD FINANCIAL INVESTMENT AND A WAIST OF MONEY"Strange, ain't it?




:twisted: And theres MY 2 CENTS!!! :twisted:
 

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WANAGOFAST said:
Looks like [Sajeevan's] enjoying being there. Almost proud,I would say.Too bad he thinks investing in an Escort is a (quote) "BAD FINANCIAL INVESTMENT AND A WAIST OF MONEY"Strange, ain't it?
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I don't think ill of escort. Infact I like them. But I don't think that investing in an old car is a bad idea.

I would say if you're going to buy a car, buy a 1 year old car with <25,000 km's (<15,000 miles ca.) on it. That way you won't have all that problems that a car with 80,000 miles has on it. That was my biggest problem. I had to change EVERYTHING on my car. And it cost a FORTUNE. I might as well have bought a new car.

That is why I said that it was a big waste of money.

Well cars are if you think about it. You put all the money in and in the end you don't get back what you put in.

I'm not going to do anymore work on my escort. My windshild is cracked and I'm going to let it stay that way.

Here's a list of some of the repairs I did to my car to make it run. I.e. not upgrades, just repairs!!! The cost includes installation at about what I paid for it. You might be able to get it for less or more. This is not a competition is just show what I paid, to illustrate why buying an old car is not worth it.

$600 Front rotars, pads, calipers
$800 rear rotars, pads, calipers (3 X changed the calipers due to probs)
$300 rear brake cables bought brand new twice
$700 new clutch
$400 new tires - all seasonals
$1600 new struts, new shocks, installed STOCK
$200 Radiator flush/replace thermostat/remove thermostat completely
$400 Pia Fog Lights
$400 Other fog lights - now removed, install factory fog lights
$200 Tint
$150 Power Door locks
$50 Power door lock control installation
$50 Broken actuator installation
$180 PIAA headlights
$80 blown foglight bulbs
$40 Repair foglights
$500 Underbody light
$30 Repair underbody lights
$40 Repair underbody lights
$150 Balance tires about 3 times because of vibration
$200 Alignment about 3 times because not happy with straightness
$500 Several Tie Rods, bolts for wheel, camber kit.
$300 Rear main seal
$250 Timing belt and pump
$200 upper seals
$150 new distributor, distributor caps
$400 3 new sets of spark plug wires
$100 spark plugs* 4 at least (including bosch platinum +4 what a waste)
$300 Diagnose and replace faulty sensors
$700 My gas money to run about getting all these things, plus parking
money.
$4500 Repair rust on car. Needs to be reparied again!!

Those are only some of the repair costs to get an old car running.

Now do you see why I say getting an old car is not worth it. Those costs probably add up to over $11,000!

Next time I'm getting a new car. I've learnt my lession. I'm through with fixing someone else's problem and waste. :wink:
 

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Sajeevan said:
Here's a list of some of the repairs I did to my car to make it run. I.e. not upgrades, just repairs!!! The cost includes installation at about what I paid for it. You might be able to get it for less or more. This is not a competition is just show what I paid, to illustrate why buying an old car is not worth it.

$600 Front rotars, pads, calipers
$800 rear rotars, pads, calipers (3 X changed the calipers due to probs)
$300 rear brake cables bought brand new twice
$700 new clutch
$400 new tires - all seasonals
$1600 new struts, new shocks, installed STOCK
$200 Radiator flush/replace thermostat/remove thermostat completely

$400 Pia Fog Lights
$400 Other fog lights - now removed, install factory fog lights
$200 Tint
$150 Power Door locks
$50 Power door lock control installation

$50 Broken actuator installation
$180 PIAA headlights
$80 blown foglight bulbs
$40 Repair foglights
$500 Underbody light
$30 Repair underbody lights
$40 Repair underbody lights

$150 Balance tires about 3 times because of vibration
$200 Alignment about 3 times because not happy with straightness
$500 Several Tie Rods, bolts for wheel, camber kit.
$300 Rear main seal
$250 Timing belt and pump
$200 upper seals
$150 new distributor, distributor caps
$400 3 new sets of spark plug wires
$100 spark plugs* 4 at least (including bosch platinum +4 what a waste)

$300 Diagnose and replace faulty sensors
$700 My gas money to run about getting all these things, plus parking
money.
$4500 Repair rust on car. Needs to be reparied again!!

Those are only some of the repair costs to get an old car running.
Everything I've put bold on is a DUH repair. 1 year old cars are no guarantees, they can have this same stuff break on them. The sensors I can see, but you chose to run around to get the things that aren't technically repairs, so you shouldn't count the gas you used for that.

The stuff I've italicized is a NON needed repair...like new fog lamps, or tint... You cannot count that as a "repair".

You don't need them, but you wanted them.

Some of this stuff, like new tires or struts, you will find with any car needs replaced, no fair throwing bad words at an Escort for stuff like that.

And if you had a decent shop who did the rust repair the right way, then you wouldn't have any rust coming back.

Half that stuff you quoted looks like stuff you bought for the car JUST BECAUSE you wanted to. Not tryin to jump in your bad side there, but that's just my opinion on the matter.
 

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Sajeevan said:
Those costs probably add up to over $11,000!
...They add up to $12,670. ...which, for the record, is over $11,000. ;)

That said, I'd have to agree with James... much of what you list in your expense sheet is not related to getting and/or keeping the car in good operating condition -- it is simply adding/upgrading to achieve a personal goal... something that you may very well have done with a 1-year old car (or even a brand new car), as well (tinted windows, etc.).

You don't give a timeframe for this work... but, personally (as James hints at), if I had spent $4,500 on any car for body repair, I would expect (barring accidents, of course) it to remain in near-pristine condition for many years to come...
 

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Sajeevan said:
You don't give a timeframe for this work... but, personally (as James hints at), if I had spent $4,500 on any car for body repair, I would expect (barring accidents, of course) it to remain in near-pristine condition for many years to come...
Believe it or not I got into a fender stratcher accident and so I had that fixed and most of my car repainted (apart from above door window and fin). I paid $1000 out of pocket. Insurance paid $500 (big mistake cause my rates almost trippled after that for claiming $500).

So my cars been painted over 2 times with over $6000 in bodywork and paint and believe it or not the hood is chipping, there other area's bubbling with under paint rust (where the steal custom construction was), and other problem areas). Why?; because it was not a quality thought out job. I guess I would have had to pay $12,000 for a quality thought out paint job.

But why would I do that when the rest of my car is rattling. I mean its a cheap $1500 escort (an old lady) that I'm put make up on. Then again, all cars are that way when they get old.

That is why I made my comments at the meet and I still feel that way.

Cars are a bad investment. Especially ones like escorts and ordinary bmws. They are a money pitfall.

Buy one you want to drive, drive it and throw it out. Don't supe it up like I did. I spent over $35,000 canadian on mine and it was money wasted.

Take care. I gotta do some studies now so I can make some real money. :roll:
 

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alright not to join anybodys bad side here, but ill have to agree with james on this one yet again. He states a good point, hell if you think thats alot, my brother spent that much on a 2001. He got screwed over on it, yes but he still had to pay for that, insurance and the car payment all in one month. And most of the stuff on the list is basic maintinance. And no reason to spend that much on a paint job, unless your a car show kind of guy, and that dont mean any escort meets either. For instance NOPI kind of shows. where there are 100's of cars, unless is a pure show car not everyday wear and tear, then get into the high end paint jobs.
 

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Yeah you're right about the paint jobs sethxtreme. I mean my basic paint job didn't even survive the stone chips, the rear ends, the side scrape, the parking lot scapes, the miscellaneous damage (like me ripping apart the body work by leaving on big mudflaps). And the poor paint job strains like interior rust bubbling, other rust, etc.

This is part of the reason I get fed up with my car. I worked hard making it look nice and now its far from perfect. The only option is to do the show car paint job at the show car price and drive your car around on a flat bed tow truck; never park it in a parking lot, etc.

But my car is not a show car, its a car I use day to day and its a car that I use in the winter. So of course its going to get damaged. Especially the bodywork.

You should see my parents Intrepid and you can see what time will do to a car.

It makes me think.... why did I bother to supe it up in the first place. I should have just driven a sleeper. That way I would have had money to turbo it. The sound system I don't regret though. Even in the event of a serious car accident, that should stay intact.

O.k. take care... :wink:
 
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