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I have a few questions. I am thinking about putting a 5.0L (302) in my 96 escort wagon. I know it´s going to be hard and expensive. Things I would like to know is;

1. will a rad work if installed on an angle. Like 45 deg. something like that. I know that some Corvettes had a slanted rad? what do you think.

2. I read in one of the other forms that a 8.8 rear end out of a late 80´s mustand what the same width as the escort; can anyone confirm this?

3. If the rear end fits will a front suspension set up be the same width.
I am building an all new front end frame and I am wanting to use mustang front suspension. Oh yah I am also making a frame for the rear end.

You guys don´t have to write down things that you think I might need, I know what I will need for this job. :p

Justin GT :-Y
 

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my question is are you going to make it RWD? if so are you gonna raise your escort up about 2 inches plus to accomodate the drive axle? I´d like to see how you´re going to fit a 302 under the hood. But if you´re all gung ho about it, try it...you already know all the costs which you will incur whilest on your little excursion from the norm. I´m not too sure if the radiator will work 100% the way it was built to at a 45 degree angle. if you built a little airdam which will help direct the air to flow over it, I bet it would work. Good luck with it if you´re serious. ;-)
 

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its going to require a lot of work but I´d love to see one done. Basically gonna need a whole new frame support system.

Axles are easy enough to get custom lengths from. the good news is there is a AWD version in aussie land. so you have some what of a tunnel for the drive shaft. You will have to ditch the tank though but thats not biggie. I fuel cell would be a better setup anyway.

Keep us informed we can do an article on the site as the project moves on.
 

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you allso have to relocate the gass tank for the drive shaft and rear end. unles you are going with fwd then it should work prety well i was going to take some mesurements on my brake tomarow at the garage from a fwd olds that has a v8
 

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ohh yeah i forgot also with the rwd you have to relocate the steering rack twards the front of the car, and make the steering colum work some how.
not too mention the holes in the fire wall and floor youll have to cut out
the good news is the mustang rearend is exactly the same width of the escort and i dont think it would be too hard to adapt it to the escort. but even that will be some what hard. seriously id go with a v6 rwd just to avoid the dash problems youll run into, have to make a custom setup for the heater core if you want to have heat. not to mention have you ever taken the dashboard out of an escort. its not fun at all ive done 6 and 2 mazdas at work. its hard
 

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well if it can be done to a focus I do not see why not an escort...although I have not seen it done with a scort yet....but you seem to be on the right track witht he component ideas for the conversion...I´m not sure on the widths but alot of that can be custom built of rya...yeah it would be expensive, but it would most likely be one of a kind
 

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If you can weld or have someone in a shop that can it wouldnt be that hard.
It also depends on your use. if this is going to be a drag car then tubbing the back end and hiding it with a fake cover would probably be the best for strength etc. I´d love to see one built for road racing duties :) that would be harder though. Snagging a IRS to fit would be especially sweet. You might end up having or even wanting to just built new suspension in the front. but there is plenty of stuff on the market for that as well. Aren´t the mustang II IFS systems real popular with the hotrod crowd?

Weight in the front end would be my main concern. But if you keep the stock front end you can get custom valved struts and springs any rate you need.

I´d move as much shit back as you can. Battery etc. The more weight you can put in the back the better off you will be.

Unless there is room for a rear mounted engine. You would obviously lose the rear seat.
 

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Wow! nice tube frame with exp body metal bolted on!. I really don´t think this is practical for the average or even the slightly about average owner. Nice work on the drag car but that exp is kind of limited in it´s duties. strip only with next to no chance of ever being allowed on the road. Has anyone done one and kept it streetable?
 

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I toyed with that idea for about a year and realized i didnt have the money for it. what i thought is to move the firewall back, do alot of custom weldings, and put a whole new chassis frame on the bottom, not to mention a shortened rear axle. New wheel wells to accomidate wider tires to gain the maximum amount of traction. you got your work cut out. go for it
 

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I know that you guys think that it will take a lot of bling bling, but I have skills, lots of tools, and tones of raw steal. right know all I am looking for is a 79-85 mustang donar car. The car will be a running 5.0L (302). I am going to strip the car totally, cut a big hole in the rear for the rear end. I will line up the rear end and start welding the custom frame together. I am going to bolt not weld, the new frame to the old frame - through the floor into welded plates in the floor. now I will cut the space for the drive shaft and weld in a U-shaped center with cross members for strenght. I haven´t found out the length of the drive shaft yet, but it might have to be shortended? doen´t matter. I am still desgining the front clip. but it will almost the same as the stock front clip. I am just going to weld long boxed steel form the rear to the front and weld it to the stock sub frame, I will mount the motor mounts to this steel. The fire wall will stay where it is. I am going to relocate the rad. I am going to angle it for more room for the pullys, thats the main "not enough room" problem.

Right now I am trying to figure out the wirring, The tricky part is that I want to keep the orginal harness with ecu so that every think will work, of course cutting off the engine hiring. Than I want to run a seprate fues box with harness for the engine. This might not work or just really tricky.

I have not desided on with transmission to use, I like standards but I like doing burn outs with an automatic and line-lock.

For the gas tank I might use a fuel sel, or I might cut the spear tire well out and weld it flat and mount the donor cars tank there.

well these are my ideas put on a page tell me what I should change, if you see any.

Also does anyone know where to get battery cables to run them to a battery in the trunk. like 15 ft. or so?

Justin GT :-Y
 

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I know where ya can get a 302 at :) call 317-788-7790 and talk to ryan he has a wrecked must tang I think he is willing to sell the motor
 

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Thats a 1982 Mercury Lynx station wagon with a 350 V-8 chevy engine, I am doing a 302 swap in to a sec. gen. 1996 escort wagon, Big difference.

Thanks for the info on the engine, but I am going to buy a donor car, and I live in canada, but thanks anyways.

Justin GT :-Y

P.S. Mine is going to be a sleeper ;-)

[ This message was edited by: JustinGT on 03-05-2003 00:56 ]
 
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