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Ok lets say year for year, stock for stock, who would win in an autocross

We'll say EGT at 130 HP, Mustang at 200 HP
Egt - 1450 LBS mustang - 2000 Lbs

Equal drivers.. who would win



im having this argument with a friend, who for some reason hates escorts .. for no real reason

**note this was in Autocross section, but noone ever reads that.. :)**
 

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you fools are all wrong... the mustang is better than the escort in every aspect. and anybody who thinks otherwise is wrong.
 

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id say the escort in sharp turns...and the mustang in the straight line if there is any :) I dont know...it depends...the mustang could win if the driver know how to drift like mad !...

and while autoXsing on a wet raceway..id say the FWD escort would definitly win against the RWD stang....

Hey...someone should make a video out of a race like that....the Big brother (stang) vs the little brother (scort)
 

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siragan said:
you fools are all wrong... the mustang is better than the escort in every aspect. and anybody who thinks otherwise is wrong.
Why's it better exactly? because it costs more? lol

Anyway, no mustang came from the factory with IRS until the 2000 Cobra R & now the 03-04 SVTs. No GTs or V6s have IRS, that means they all have SRAs, which isn't as good for handling.

Depends on the autocross setup and the driver, depends on the suspension set up, power and torque curves of each car, and last but not least, depends on the type of tires.

There's too many variables to just say who would win and who wouldn't.

... but I just wanna know who the hell has a mustang that weighs 2000 lbs? :?: :?:
 

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honestly, im looking back.. and i have NO idea where those numbers came from, the mustang should be 3000 while the escort is 2450 something. Im still placing money on EGT, and im gonna test it out this spring :twisted:
 

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i'm gonna say the scort ... assuming both are bone stock.

my 03 mustang gt weighed 3750 stock. not sure what an escort's weight would be, but it has to be less than that, way less.

because of the weight difference it would be easier to manuver i think.
 

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Anyway, no mustang came from the factory with IRS until the 2000 Cobra R & now the 03-04 SVTs. No GTs or V6s have IRS, that means they all have SRAs, which isn't as good for handling.
Which is exactly why I said what I said. :) If the Mustang has IRS, the Mustang will rape it. If it's newer than a '98, the Mustang should win by a bit, anything between say.. '78 and '97 (with the exception of SVO's and Cobras) should be pretty close to even, and anything older than '78 would lose horribly to the EGT.
 

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1991 Ford Mustang 5.0 LX coupe

5.0 V8, 225 hp 300 ft lbs torque

Curb Weight: 2759 lbs
Turning Circle: 40.8 feet

1991 Ford Mustang 5.0 LX hatchback

5.0 V8, 225 hp 300 ft lbs torque

Curb Weight: 2824 lbs
Turning Circle: 40.8 feet

1991 Ford Escort GT hatchback

1.8L I4 127 hp 114 ft lbs torque

Curb Weight: 2364 lbs
Turning Circle: 31.5 feet

1992 Ford Escort GT hatchback

1.8L I4 127 hp 114 ft lbs torque

Curb Weight: 2458 lbs
Turning Circle: 31.5 feet

1993 Ford Escort GT hatchback

1.8L I4 127 hp 114 ft lbs torque

Curb Weight: 2453 lbs
Turning Circle: 31.5 feet

1994 Ford Escort GT hatchback

1.8L I4 127 hp 114 ft lbs torque

Curb Weight: 2325 lbs
Turning Circle: 31.5 feet

1995 Ford Escort GT hatchback

1.8L I4 127 hp 114 ft lbs torque

Curb Weight: 2459 lbs
Turning Circle: 31.5 feet

1996 Ford Escort GT hatchback

1.8L I4 127 hp 114 ft lbs torque

Curb Weight: 2355 lbs
Turning Circle: 31.5 feet

Looks like 1994 is the lightest year of the 2G GTs... the Escort has a 300 lb advantage on the 5.0 LX coupe. I think stock for stock...the Escort will win an autocross but will be murdered in teh 1320.
 

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if both cars are stock and drivers are equally skilled then it would come down to whichever driver was luckier and made the fewer mistakes

all things being "equal" it wouldnt matter what they were driving it would all come down to the driver. both cars are so far at the opposite ends of the spectrum performance wise both drivers would have the exact same problems on the course, utilizing the available power and handling.

if we were talking about road racing or drag racing it would be a different story but auto x is pretty much the equalizer and has less to do with what you are driving than it does with how well you drive what you have and I bet if you took a stock mustang and a stock escort GT and ran them throught the same auto x course 10 times you neither car would win everytime it would end up going back and forth
 

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well... I personally would like to see the lateral g numbers for each car. The mustang should have slightly better numbers, as rear drive allows the front tires to use all of their traction to turn the car. In a front drive, the front tires must not only use their traction to turn, but also to propel the car. numbers that matter : power to weight, and lateral g's compare those to find the theoretical winner. Then consider the track, if one has superior handling, and the track is all twisted, it should come out on top. then again, anything can happen on race day...
 
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