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Ok lets say year for year, stock for stock, who would win in an autocross

We'll say EGT at 130 HP, Mustang at 200 HP
Egt - 1450 LBS mustang - 2000 Lbs

Equal drivers.. who would win



im having this argument with a friend, who for some reason hates escorts .. for no real reason
 

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i would probley say the scort. It also depend on the course. If it was tight and twisty the scort would dominate. If it wasn't and the exits of the turns were open and fast, the mustang would tear the little scort up. It's all about wha tcousre and what kinda situation. at the recent auto-x i went to a srt-4 showed up and knocked over hella cones and ended up dropping out after his first run. It just didnt work for the course. It seemed to have too much power, not enough suspention or braking. It was stock except for rims and bov, and had a lot of potential. 510s seem to dominate pretty well around here. same with mgs and the sort.
 

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I raced a 2002 mustang at the drag strip, It was a v6 with 200hp and 255ft/lbs.torque. I beat him by half a second in the 1/4 mile! This was in a straight line, so a scort would kill on a road course. :wink:
 

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93DLEGT said:
I raced a 2002 mustang at the drag strip, It was a v6 with 200hp and 255ft/lbs.torque. I beat him by half a second in the 1/4 mile! This was in a straight line, so a scort would kill on a road course. :wink:
Got timeslips with reaction times? ;)

Seriously, it depends on the course if you are talking autox, no two ways about it.

Diane
 

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it TOTALLY depends on the course...

there are days when my wagon (even when it was 1.9 powered) could beat every mustang, camaro, rx7, corvette, sti, wrx, evo, etc....

then there are days when the course has some really long straight sections, and then they are the ones that win...

I suggest to your friend with the mustang and you in your escort go to a few autocrosses together, and put his theory to the test....

--sarge
 

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and it REALLY depends on the year of each car too.. a 99 mustang v6 honestly isnt going to hold the curves as well as a 2005...

likewise, the 2nd gen EGT has a fantastic suspension that in my opinion, makes the 1st gen stock suspension look like a 1st year engineering students mid-term project.
 

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I spanked a bunch of Cobras, Lightnings, a Porsche, Vette, and a verrrrry pissed Evo VIII owner on a very fast autocross course with my 91 Escort GT / ITA. 1.2 mile course, 5 sloloms (one that was 30 paces between cones!), and a lot of room to put your foot down. The Evo VIII was 2nd over-all by 4.4 seconds to me. They had a few classes; 2 Mustang based, 1 Lightning, 1 for SVT Focus & Contours, and 1 for "others". They put my EGT in with the Focus/Contour class.
Granted, I have been autocrossing an Escort of some sorts since 1987, and have been road racing since 1999. So I know the car REALLY well.
 

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:) That put a smile on my face, Wizard!

I was able to take my stock wagon at Blackhawk Farms (1.94 mile road course) and beat a 911, a cobra R, a couple spec miatas, a couple of 70's Datsun 280Z's, and a few others.. granted, it was raining, and I paid attention to the instructors (this was a driving school) but when I exited the track after passing the 911, I was grinning ear to ear for a long time. I just wich I had a video of it!

For all that the 2nd gen escorts are considered "dinky little econoboxes" they really have very well put together suspension, and the cars really don't protest too much when you put that to its limits. Once you've got some seat time in it, and begin to know your car's limits, there is a LOT you can do with the cars that you normally wouldn't think is doable. There are obviously much better cars out there, but I think it's a great testament to Mazda that the suspension on these things works so well.

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a guy i work with owns a 2002 v6 mustang with 200hp and he was talkin shit about my scort. one night we were both leaving the same time and ended up going the same direction. we were at a redlight and he starts reving up, so i answer the call. by the time i hit 2nd gear i was a car length ahead of him and pulling. he didnt come up on me till about 80mph.


so on a course with lower speeds the scort should win.
 

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maxjacus said:
a guy i work with owns a 2002 v6 mustang with 200hp and he was talkin **** about my scort. one night we were both leaving the same time and ended up going the same direction. we were at a redlight and he starts reving up, so i answer the call. by the time i hit 2nd gear i was a car length ahead of him and pulling. he didnt come up on me till about 80mph.

so on a course with lower speeds the scort should win.
Must have been an auto or he was asleep. Cause a decently driven 5 speed v6 is capable of low 15's which faster than any stock escort.
 

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nukewater said:
Ok lets say year for year, stock for stock, who would win in an autocross

We'll say EGT at 130 HP, Mustang at 200 HP
Egt - 1450 LBS mustang - 2000 Lbs

Equal drivers.. who would win
Ok, the 1.8L EGT is about 2450lbs stock, the Stang another 1k heavier. The results would depend on the driver's experience. If it was me, the EGT would win. I have more seat time with a FWD car and know it's quirks. I have autocrossed RWD cars (88 Stang LX 5.0, 85 MR2, 95 Miata) and done well with them.

:idea: Tell your friend to find a Mustang to autocross & we'll put him up against Diane in her 1st Gen EGT (the Black & Blue one). That should shut him up :twisted:
 

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The stangs not another 1k lbs....a gt convertable would be but a v6 would only be like 500lbs heavier than the scort.
 
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