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hillo!
Once again, I'll ask you for advice! :p
I heard that the 1.8BP turbo GT-R is the same motor that the 1.8 in the GT but with the turbo and piston? Is that true?
Second, I think I'll swap the 1.8 in my 96 LX but without turbo'ing it for now. I want to add custom piston and crankshaft, but where can I found them?
What other thing you suggest me to do on the 1.8 engine? Head upgrade? Chip? For about around 2000$ of upgrade I'm thinking, with exhaust, clutch and tranny.
Which part or compagny should I buy them?
Which clutch will be the better?
How many gain in the end should I expect?
Thx a lot!
 

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Save yourself some money and put a 2.0l in your LX or dump the LX and get a GT. The LX and GT under the hood is as different as a Chevy to a Honda. You would have to swap everything under the hood including the Tranny. If you want a GT-R engine, dont hold your breath. They are not easy to find. GTX engines are, but the GT-R's are very rare.


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I agree with caymen...

the 1.8L BP is a great engine, but you'd need to completely re-fab the engine bay. This means welding in new engine mounts, etc. Basically you'd be making your LX into a GT front clip.

At that rate, you'd be much much much better off just buying a GT in the start. Nice ones can be had for a measly 1600 or 1700 bucks, and the engines can be rebuilt and turbocharged.
 

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First off, I don't want to buy another car because I changed all the piece in my LX, it's like brand new. For the engine mount, it's just one that you have to remake.
GT are very rare here. I've seem 3 in my city and they are all auto!
 

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siragan said:
This means welding in new engine mounts.
The LX and GT chassie mounts are the same, no welding needed, just lots of wrenching and wireing.

But really, if you want a second gen with a 1.8 might as well buy a GT, your gonna need one if you swap motors anyways.

The SPI swap might not give you as much hp stock vs stock, but it's a hell of a lot easyer.
But the SPI does make more tq than the 1.8 bp
 

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Arg, stop changing what I want to do!!! I ask before for an KLZE swap but you respond me that I should put à 1.8 or 2.0spi. I know all of that. But I want to put a 1.8 and turbo'ing later. But for now, I just want to upgrade the 1.8. No need if it's very complicated because I have a person that can do this for me. I don't want to find a GT because I'll just order an engine from a j/y and rebuilt it with some custom piston and crankshaft and all the sutff. I just want you to help me find those custom piston and some other stuff that can be helpfull like an head upgrade or something like that. I know it will be more easy to just find a GT but my car is like brand new, all thing are new! It will be more job to swap my entire car into the GT. So, that said, can someone help me?! If not, I'll just bust my ass to find all the piece by myself and to some research by myself... Maybe the piece that I choose will be scrap, but it will work...
 

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you don't need a new crank - just have it balanced.

you don't need new rods - just have them balanced and shotpeened.

i don't know where you can get them, but your pistons will need to be 8 or 8.5-1 compression and, of course, forged. preferably oversized to whatever you have the block bored over to. JE and Wiseco can custom make pistons for you if you have a hard time finding them. My custom pistons were $180/ea through Wiseco.

*That will have your block ready for +/- 350-400hp. If you only want 200-250hp, find a low mileage short block and don't rebuild it. It'll be fine as it is.

I'd use a Centerforce Dual Friction clutch. Everyone i've ever talked to that's used one has loved it, and mine was marvelous. A centerforce stage 2 would be fine if you're just shooting for 200hp.

As far as fuel uprades go, (or a chip, as you call it) i honestly have no idea how this would work. you'd probably need to find a chip off of a gt-r, or use a standalone fuel management system. if there's an easier way, someone let me know :)

Your stock head should be fine, just port/polish everything on it, maybe get some larger valves. none of this is necessary for a 200-250hp goal.

Basically what i'm trying to tell you is you need to tell us how much power you want to make. You need to do some more research, and come back with some questions that aren't nearly as broad as what you're asking us now.

Like i said, if 200-250hp is your goal, just leave the internals on the motor alone. It will be fine, as long as you keep detonation away.

That being said, it would probably be easier to find a GT, swap all of the "new thing" that you have on your LX now to the GT, then go from there.
 

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Thx TitoElSpicco! Finally somebody understand :p

My goal for now is not really in hp. I want to throw about 2000$ in the engine itself. Because in a near futur, I'll probably turbo'ing it. So, I just look for about 250 hp without turbo. I want to prepare my engine for turbo.

For doing LX to GT swap, I don't think I should just get a GT, maybe I'll get one scrap, like engine not running for having all the other piece. I can find GT engine for about 350$. Maybe find a wreck GT for about 300$. I have someone that can help me doing this swap, he is a ford technician ;)
So for finding a GT and remove all the thing on my LX and put them on the GT, without knowing if they'll fit... My car as litteraly no rust on it. Just the beginning that I'll stop this summer.

If I can find a GT for about 1000$ running well, maybe I'll get it, but for now, I don't have one!
 

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You need to do ALOT more research on turbocharged engines. Go to the library. Read some books.

My tbird made around 380hp. Without the turbo it made about 95hp.

See what i'm getting at? Turbo engines *should* run absolutely horrible when there is no turbo on it. If you want to hit 250 n/a hp, the engine will NOT like a turbo on it. The compression will be too high, the exhaust will be all wrong, the timing will be WAAAAAAAAAAY off. Figure out what you want to do, and do it right the first time. Don't make a n/a race car, then try to turbo it. It won't work. Turbo engines like low compression, weird timing, and no exhaust. All this together on a n/a engine results in an engine that usually runs like trash.

The best $30 you'll spend on your car -----> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... s&n=507846
 

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You are better off getting a front clip for an Escort GT. Also, you should get the GT instrument cluster with the 7000 RPM tach. You will also need the ECU and complete wiring harness from the ECU to the engine. Catalytic converter placement is different also. You are going to spend alot of time getting this to run. I wish you the best of luck, you are going to need it.


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i dont know about the 2.0. i dont trust it when it comes to performance. granted it does have more hp, but the pickup and top speed suck.
i remember last winter, my '95 LX was jam-packed with my friends and i, with the heat on high and all that. we raced a guy with a 2.0. man, we seriously kicked the crap out of him, he was doing everything to try and beat me at each light; jumping the gun, neutral drops, powerbraking, everything, and we still triumphed.

this may sound asanine, but about the GT engine, is it possible to just order one straight from ford? that way, you wouldnt need a donor GT, and you'd have a warranty if something went wrong.
 

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Lol, order one from ford...! When my engine blow up, i want to see if I can buy an engine from ford, 2500$ CA for an 1.9 :p
 

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all ya'all do realize that the 2.0 SPI's are just the upgraded versions of the 1.9 ford block? It's just slightly bored (either that or stroked, i don't remember)... but it's the same freaking block.

If you want more power the easiest way, i'd suggest putting the 1G 1.9 HO heads ontop of your 2G LX. instant 19 hp & 7 ft lbs gain. :wink:
 
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