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CHINESE MADE 1.6L CVH with a twist?

Discussion in '1st Gen 1981-1990 CVH' started by RustyNutzRacing, Jun 25, 2009.

  1. UnexplodedCow

    UnexplodedCow FEOA Member

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    If the cam lobe lift is indeed 7 mm that's actually a fairly badass cam. With the rocker ratio, that equals out to 11.55mm lift at the valve, which means .453"...pretty good to be honest. If your intake valve is also 41mm that's the typical 1.6 size. It can be upgraded to 42mm, which should help flow.

    Your intake honestly looks alright, but the throttle body is definitely too small at that diameter. I'd be willing to bet the CVH throttle body will bolt on. Also, that valve cover is good stuff. I like the dual PCV/breather tubes, since the 1.6 only had one. I was just trying to remedy that myself by using a PCV oil filler cap :p.

    Yes, please find out pricing for that. I'm hoping it's not expensive (made in China :p) but if it's quality then it sounds like a good switch. The only question then remains how it hooks up to the ECU. If it can plug in with a TFI type plug, or something can be made, all the better. Then we 1st genners can get EDIS, although I still like being able to tune a distro.
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    I think I measured it right, measured in several different spots right below the lobe which I assume is the base you were talking about, and them measured the the lobe.

    But wouldn't the cam lift be 6mm? Subtract 37 from 31 = 6?

    I'm not sure that a CVH TB would bolt on to my intake. It's pretty small compared to what I've looked at on other intakes. The TB is a cone shape. Goes from 20mm to 10 mm.
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    Holy crap. That's way, way too small. My finger is bigger than 10mm in diameter. How does that engine breathe? Maybe just drill that out to a larger size. Even 20mm would be an increase, but that is still way too small. Hell, my CFI has a larger throttle body.. and my math was wrong..oops. 6mm makes for a more mundane cam, with .39" lift....the extra mm makes that much of a difference. Oh well, look into Kent or Piper cams from burtonpower, and they'll do what you want...just stay away from the turbo cams, and go for the high rev, natural aspiration models. I'd say go for a power peak around 6500 rpm, as I'm assuming it has stock style lifters which theoretically hold up to that rpm just fine. Solid ones can be had.
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    Yeah I know....I was pretty shock myself when I read 10mm.

    scort posted a photo of the lifter, I'm not sure if they are the same as the CVH or not?

    Why NA cams? I've seen EFI cams that seem to be better than the NA cams? I want to stay with the EFI system.

    Here is my plan.....

    First I'm going to take it to the dyno and see just what the true numbers are. Then I'm going to....

    Port and polish the head (port head to hemi)

    Port match intake to head (if I can find one that will work)

    Port match my tube header to the head.

    Performance Cam

    60 or 80 mm TB

    Performance coil pack and wires

    Larger injectors (size ???)

    7lbs Flywheel

    underdrive pulley

    adjustable timimg gear

    And I hope to get a set of lifters like 1lowscort has.

    Reprogram the ECU during the next dyno test to see what difference these changes made.
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    NA means it has no forced induction...i.e. turbo or supercharger. EFI is also NA.
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    Gotcha....

    What kind of gains do you think I will get by doing the upgrades listed above?
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    Something your butt dyno will register...as far as numbers are concerned, dyno it before and after to see.
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    That's the plan......
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    So my cam don't have a sensor correct???
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    I have to see pictures of this. If it is that small than Briggs & Stratton has you beat by a long shot.
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    LOL....ok I was wrong. I took so many different measurements and wrote them down on paper and can't read my own writing I guess.

    TB is 48mm...Sorry for the bad info.
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    Now that sounds reasonable....was gonna say, 10mm might as well be a sealed engine. At least you'd have high vacuum :p
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    okay, not to sound like a total newb, but what is that sensor next to the oil filter, the Oil Sending unit? looks like it has some kindda tube coming off it. If thats so, the Turbo guys could use that for thier oil feed lines.... 8O
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    That's for the oil pressure sensor. What most people don't realize is the CVH oil pump has a secondary output on it already. If you look at the picture of one, you'll note two lines cast into the body. The horizontal one is the pressure relief line. The other one is the output line. They're typically capped, but will pump oil out just fine, although an outboard filter is needed.

    The more typical option is to get a sandwich plate and run some lines from it to an oil cooler and the turbo.
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    For those that liked the EDIS set-up here are the prices.

    Bracket - $68.99 - Part# A11-3705130

    EDIS Sensor $125.99 - Part# A11-3705120
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    Good knowing those prices...they aren't cheap :p. Is that through Joyner, or Chery, btw? And...the last question would be the EDIS hookup..any pics to post on what it looks like? I'm hoping it's close to the Ford TFI or some other design/shape of plug.
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    That is through Joyner, Can't buy anything from Chery unless your go through tons of paper work with customs and become a dealer.

    Soon as I get my car back I will take a couple pic of the hook-up. Car is in the fab shop having the A-arms redone. Should have it back Saturday.
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    What would the Chery valve cover cost as well? Definitely would give us non-HO guys a true PCV option.
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