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white-lightning said:
Yesterday me and my friend went to look and at some of the "clunkers." One we saw was a 2006 Toyota Sequoia.
What?! You can get more than $4500 trade-in on that! The idea behind the program is to get gas guzzlers off the road for good, that's why they destroy the engines. Besides the bearings, that stuff they put in the engine also coats the oil passages so even if you were to rebuild the engine once it heated up that stuff would be in your oil. I still don't agree with destroying the engine and having the trans off limits at the junkyard. The car traded must be in drivable condition so there are alot of trannys going to waist. There should also be a rule that the car must have over 100K miles to be traded. It difficult to call a car a clunker when it has under 100K.

For anyone interested the most traded in cars for the program are:
Ford Explorers
Jeep Cherokee and Grand Cherokee
Ford Windstars
Dodge Caravan
 

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Remember the old Dura-lube commercials? They should make a new one showing how it stands up against the stuff they put in the engine.

What do they do if the stuff they put in doesn't kill the engine?
 

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Thats stupid. You don't trash a rare car. The one thing I will say though is the vehicles that the Typhoon and Syclone are based off of are pure junk. Its only the specialness of those versions that makes me angry. I'm sure alot of people don't know what they've got or they want to most money and will do anything to get it. I bet the SHO qualifys for the program to. :cry:

Its starting to sound like it might be worth it to wait at a dealership with $4500 cash in you pocket and wait for something good to come along. If you can get to the person before they sign the paperwork I bet they would rather have cash than a rebate.
 

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I thought you had to buy a car that got better mileage than the one you traded in?
 

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Cymmantix said:
The only reason I could see to trade in that Typhoon would be if it didn't run.
The vehicle has to run and be drivable for them to accept it for the program.

I now realize that I am monopolizing this thread so I will lay off it for awhile.
 

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I bet the dealers have something to do with it as well. With cash for clunkers, the dealer doesn't give you the credit for your trade, the government does. The dealer also doesn't have to do as much with the car you traded as well.

In short, the dealers don't have to credit you for your trade when you buy a new car so in the end they are making more money. For this reason, dealers are also probably quoting people excessively low trade-in values to encourage them to use the program. Lets say, a high volume dealer sells 50 new cars in a month using the cash for clunkers program for the trades. Lets see, $4500 X 50 = $225,000! That's around $225,000 the dealer would have lost had they given people fair trade in value for there cars.

While that number doesn't take into account the cars traded that were worth less than $4500 it does make a point. Not to mention the extra cars the dealer is going to sell because of the program. Ford has said it will step up production of the Focus because of the demand the program has created for it.
 

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I'm glad its over. I watched a vid on street fire of a C4 Corvette someone had traded getting put down. Who in there right mind would clunk a Corvette!?
 

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alscort93 said:
The funny thing about the stupidity program, was that I saw 2 or 3 pretty decent ZX2's get taken in on the deal.
The ZX2 and pretty much any Escort was ineligible for the program. The car must have an average goverment fuel economy rating of of 18MPG or less to be eligible. My moms 97 DOHC Taurus wagon got a rating of 19MPG so I find it hard to believe that a ZX2 would be rated worse.
 

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But note what the list says at the top.
"As submitted, not necessarily reviewed or approved."
There was one 93 Escort on that list and those dealers stupid enough to accept cars that got good fuel economy will not be reimbursed for them.
On a sad note, 23 Ford Lightning's and 107 SHO's met their fate due to the program. :cry:
 

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Somebody traded in an 87' Buick GNX!
I wounder who traded in the DB7 convertible?
 

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The vehicle traded in on the program had to run, drive, and have been registered continuously for at least a year. Many times a totaled car will still run and drive and if its still registered I guess you could still trade it.
 
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