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I have a 1991 escort Wagon and wanted to know what I can do to help braking because at the moment it is horrible. I have drilled and slotted rotors on the front but that is it. Any help would be appreciated.

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siragan sez:

slotted rotors will help mainly only with heat dissipation, not so much with braking. If you want better braking, the best way to go is better pads (greenstuff pads are nice) and brake lines that don't suck.
 

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not much of a diff i think...but you could always convert to the GT rotors, in front and back. im not sure if its different size or not. im a first gen guy...not a 2 gen yet. And like siragan says...greenstuff pads are the way 2 go.
 

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well several options.

Depending on your budget:
Better pads: Greenstuff are popular but Hawk and some others are more respected in the racing industry.

Braided brake lines (very good idea)

Upgrade the rotors (to the GT size)

slotted and drilled does dink on a none race situation. Even autocross wouldn't get them warm enough to worry about it. It will help get rid of the dust of the surface a little but. But my guess is its not enough to make up for the lose in surface area for the pad to grip to. IMHO

If you really want to go nuts rebuild the calipers and replace the crappy rubber slides with bronze units. Use a good grease. The only options available after that would be to wait until I finish developing a larger brake kit and/or a special little piece that someone has suggested would make a good improvement... but I'll keep it secret for now.
 

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For braking power.. I reccomend installing the rear discs from a GT with some Green Stuff pads (I'm doing well with the Stillen pads right now.. I haven't tried Green Stuff yet). One of the biggest problems when it comes to braking power on the wagons is that the brake balance is tuned for a pony... very front heavy. We can use a bit more rear bite and the car won't feel so ponderous when slowing down. Try a few hard braking runs and then try the same runs with the help of the handbrake (don't yank it.. pull it smoothly so that you can feel the extra rear braking). Of course.. you don't ever want the rear to brake too hard, (or you'll end up spinning out) but the brake balance on most cars is determined by lawsuit conscious lawyers. A little more rear can go a long way.

I haven't looked into it.. but does anyone know of any rear shoes (for the drums) that have a performance oriented lining? Rear drums can be effective (on an autox course).. but we need good shoes! :x
 

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egtdude said:
click my link for braided lines.

the k-series thing is a joke...

yup the GT brakes should be pretty simple. might need to rent a hub puller but I don't think so.
If the GT brakes are so simple, then how come nobody can do a writeup on them?
 

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step one buy parts

step two take everything off that needs to come off

step three put all the new stuff on


sorry couldn't resists. In truth I haven't a clue what it takes in detail but I am fairly sure the hubs are the same so it should be a simple bolt job.
 

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slammedbluewagon said:
Thanks egtdude. I am going to look for those braided lines in a minute and I will look into the rear discs.
Actually I'd do both at the same time because I think they only make the braided SS brake lines for GT's and the cable is different from LX to GT.

At least I've never seen braided SS lines for the rear drums.
 

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egtdude said:
If you really want to go nuts rebuild the calipers and replace the crappy rubber slides with bronze units. Use a good grease.
Egtdude:

What do you mean by the bronze units?
Of course I am not satisfied with the rubber slides so
is there any alternative solution?

Thank you.

Rob.
 
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