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Discussion in 'ICE (In Car Entertainment)' started by 99sportscort, Nov 1, 2010.

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  1. 99sportscort

    99sportscort New Member

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    Thanks for all your help guys! i got everything wired up and i cant even make my lights blink!
    I see you've moved onto batteries. I have an Interstate Megatron battery and its been great, my last one lasted 7 years. The new one is almost a year old and i've had my system for little over a year. I also have a db HO alternator. Would i really benefit much from getting a deep cycle battery ?
    99sportscort, Dec 3, 2010
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    you have to compare actual size, my "stock" battery is 650cca and 850ca from walmart, so the term stock is meaningless.what I said isn't an opinion the typical deep cycle battery has thicker plates so pound for pound standard's thinner plates have more surface area. Deep cycle batteries are obviously more resilient and have a higher reserve capacity but for short surges of high current the typical car battery will have a higher output than the deep cycle of the same size. at least that's what the 7th edition of the Automotive Handbook written by Robert Bosch (which is published by the Society of Automotive Engineers) says, but hell what do they know right? then again this was written like 2-3 years ago....
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    pnmred FEOA Member

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    if you plan on doing long periods of non engine running stereo use than go with a deep cycle most definitely,
    pnmred, Dec 3, 2010
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    pnmred FEOA Member

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    bottom line you have to compare apples to apples, every deep cycle is not necessarily manufactured the same
    pnmred, Dec 3, 2010
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    the prob with welding cable is that its nowhere near flexible as car audio cable...and as far as my 0 awg under my hood idk?!...but its 0 awg and 1000 strand.....
    ESCORT_me, Dec 3, 2010
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    pnmred FEOA Member

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    the purpose of doing the "big 3" upgrade is to reduce voltage drop n the car's electrical system, however you achieve this is your own agenda so if you use 4 seperate 8awg wire or 1 4awg whatever to truly find out how well the upgrade will work you need to quantify the total resistance in the charging system
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    neuspeedescort Moderator Staff Member

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    first off - 99sportscort. im glad your up and running properly. an aftermarket large battery is only going to help more. i know in my first can i used to have mad voltage drop but it was only at certian times. my lights would rarely fade. but when the right note hit it would just drain me to voltage clip. it was weird.

    second off - pnmred. im not looking to argue i just didn't understand your statement. i guess the real question is what determines a "short surge" in their eyes. along with are they taking large stereo's into account or just starting a vehicle?

    thirdly - escort_me. the reason i asked is because if its the tinned is carries a smaller peak amperage load capability then most 0ga power wire i buy and use in cars i install in. an the 0ga i use commonly is upwards of 1600 strand count. the AWG verses GA in the stereo wire game can go either way. however i do know what you mean. some manufactures that want to sell you "big wire" will mark it as larger based on its external jacket size. i had a guy give me some "2ga" once. i unwrapped it and it was no larger then a true 8ga all because of the jacketing being super thick. so i know what you mean by watching out.


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    o i c!...i was just assuming my 0 awg marine wire was a 1000 count by my ruff guesstimate!...this is my MONSTER CABLE http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MONSTER- ... 0499681095 running to my yellow top in my trunk and same MONSTER CABLE doubled grounded to chasis AND ALL THE WAY BACK to my neg. connecttion on my alt....kinda over-kill but i think its the best ground ever!! IMO(i also have the big 3 installed AND I WISH I COULD FIND THE STRAND COUNT ON THIS LOVELY WIRE!..) :D
    ESCORT_me, Dec 3, 2010
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    neuspeedescort Moderator Staff Member

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    look into knukonceptz power wire. that is what i use. its got no added brand name pricing like some companies and they ship same day 90% of the time.


    NEUMAN
    neuspeedescort, Dec 4, 2010
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    racethisescort89 New Member

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    One thing im gonna tell most of you guys on here between 4doorscort AND Neuspeedescort the 2 of them KNOW their Sh!t!! i know most of my car audio like as it is right now i got the clearest Highs out of everyone i know
    racethisescort89, Dec 4, 2010
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    MONSTER is name brand and its not a "added brand" like you say...and it works WAAAY more than fine for my 2000 rms system!... :)
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    neuspeedescort Moderator Staff Member

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    what i mean by added brand name is there is no reason to purchase say rockford fosgate wire at 3 times the price of the knukoncepts i use. does your monster cable have the plastic line down the core of the wire?


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    well i got 25 feet for 40 bux shipped(the buy was a special sale but not from link i provided) and as far as the "plastic line" called magnatic flux tubing i dont have it cuz i got the older version they used to sell....but hey it does all the same! atleast i didnt install these OVER-RATED "4 awg 1000w kits" that are 10 gauge in disguse!...lol its for my daily driver anyways(99 SE not going comp either)
    ESCORT_me, Dec 4, 2010
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  14. neuspeedescort

    neuspeedescort Moderator Staff Member

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    yeah those overrated kits is where that kid got his "2ga" from im sure. so when i used it i only ran one like 300 watt amp off it.


    NEUMAN
    neuspeedescort, Dec 4, 2010
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    i run 8g to my 4 subs it makes awesome speaker wire!...
    ESCORT_me, Dec 11, 2010
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    neuspeedescort Moderator Staff Member

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    true story! so you got pics?


    NEUMAN
    neuspeedescort, Dec 12, 2010
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    racethisescort89 New Member

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    i run 8G to my Amp..it makes it enough im only using a 200W MTX however. Soon im getting 2 12's so that MTX amp is going to amp my fronts..but yea you got pix?
    racethisescort89, Dec 12, 2010
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    i will post pix as soon as i get my camera back that i loaned out...
    ESCORT_me, Dec 14, 2010
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    its all bout the 1/0 welding cable!

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    4doorscort, Dec 15, 2010
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    oh so i 4got to post some pix!...i will i the next day or 2 when i got some extra time..4sure!
    ESCORT_me, Feb 15, 2011
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