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Ok here it goes. I have found a Mazda JDM 1.8L BPTurbo with AWD transmission for around $2000. I seen that and my eye got as big as softballs. My ? is, were can I find a rear end to fit under my 94 LX Wagon? I know that I may have to do some work on the floor pan to make room for a drive shaft. Would maybe a rearend out of a Meyta (?spelling?) work. I would like to stay close to a stock ride hight if not lower. I also knoe that i will more then likly have to make a driveshift and all the linkage to mount the reariend.

Has any one done an AWD converation?

Thanks for any help you may have.

Blessed Be
 

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I dont think he comes here anymore but there was a guy on here toying with that very idea...he was thinking about a mustang 5.0 Rear end with a custom driveshaft. If you have the money, you can try a miata rear end... but thats gonna be a lot of work.

On another note, cutting the floor board on a unibody car will end up weakening it, gotta move the gas tank, get better springs to handle the weight. On top of that you have to find a way to mount a Mazda based motor into a Ford based chassis and making sure everything lines up.
 

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James92Scort said:
On another note, cutting the floor board on a unibody car will end up weakening it, gotta move the gas tank, get better springs to handle the weight. On top of that you have to find a way to mount a Mazda based motor into a Ford based chassis and making sure everything lines up.
well the biggest part of the work would be the floorpan...but if you were to really try you may be able to get the right section cut from an Aussie Laser TX3...as well as the other parts needed for the AWD..I have thought about this and so far it has been cost prohibitive for me...

James....James...James...dang man I thought you would not have gone to this statement....well I at least thought you knew that the 91-96 year model Escorts share the same chassis as the 90-94 Mazda Protege, 323 and MX-3....hell the motor in the GT is actually a Mazda motor...the only clearance issue that may come up would be for the AWD tranny...but as stated before...that would depend on the parts you got from the Aussie Laser Tx3 or the Protege AWD from Japan....but just thinking of the language barrier (unless you are fluent in Japanese) I would reccomend trying Aus
 

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well my oppinion differs from others because... well I'm crazy.

I've done a lot of reseach on this as well. Essentially it is going to be very expensive but if you still want to do it it could be done. Now the AWD systems are not known for being very strong. So if you are really looking at it I'd suggest doing something a little more custom and pieced together to get what you want out of it.
 

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I know it's a Mazda chassis at heart, but it's setup differently to accept the Ford engine/transmission combo. To me that makes it more of a Ford based setup & therefore less compatible than say if he put it in a GT, or LTS, etc.

I dunno how to explain it, but you see what I mean, right? :?
 

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As soon as you drop the front crossmember (with engine and transaxle) out of a non GT escort, you've got nothing but a mazda protege wearing ford sheetmetal and ford interior. There is no difference, in regards to such a swap, between a GT and a wagon except that the tailpipe will need to be a little longer to clear the rear bumper.

Finding an AWD Protege with a rusted body from Canada is probably your best bet. You should be able to swap everything directly over (rear subframe, gas tank, engine transmission, etc).. but I wouldn't attempt an AWD project car with just the transmission to go on.

In the US, the 323 GTX is your best bet for an AWD setup, but you will need to lengthen the driveshaft about 4"... and find a GTX, which is bordering on cult-car status.

I've put thought into this swap as well.. the drivelines are strong enough for rallying in a 2000lb GTX, but add on the 600 extra pounds from your wagon and things start to get a bit iffy.

[rant]I never take reports of AWD drivelines being weak for face value.. If you've got redline clutchdrops in mind, with dreams of smoking all for tires down a dragstrip, no AWD system for the street will work. I hear complaints about driveline strength even from the subaru guys.. and the stock subaru drivelines are good up to 400hp... some drivers just can't grasp how much more stress a driveline goes through when there's so much grip. [/rant]
 

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I'm just stirring ya up james

I would ave to agree with EGTdude...if you build one it would be a good idea to shop around and find good parts, I also have heard of weaknesses in the Mazda AWD drivetrain...but if things work out I may still try to build one myself sometime or another...one of my ideas was to build one with rotary power....would take some engineering...but I still believe it could work
 

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well here is an idea. something new.

IF you are spending all the money anyways why not have some fun.

GET a CDM protege AWD, i know of 2 on sale. cut your car, and it in 1/2. weld the back 1/2 of the pro to your EGT and voila a maz-ord escotege. You get your AWD and the WTF factor all in one.

i mean the AWD conversion on an 'scot will cost you just as much.
 

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the AWD protege and the FWD protege have different floor plans. the rear hump is larger, and the center consoles are different due to the larger chanel for the drivetrain.even the seat bolting pattern is off by a bit.
 

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ive done thought of this too, correct me if im wrong...i was talkin this over with the guy james was talking about, and i think we came up with the mustang II, the 302GT model to be precise, thats just about the same width, and wheel base as our scorts, get the drive train from that, and just about everything from that...a nice 302 would push our scorts nice...but a 5.0 would kick ass too. So correct me if im wrong but i think the Mustang II would be your best bet...
 

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I know a place where you can buy 1,8 Mazda BPTurbo Engine with AWD transmission from Japan with 10 000 to 35 000 miles for 1050 $ US ...It's located in Montreal, in Canada...but they ship all the time to USA...

Let me know if ya want to know more...
 

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yeah the rotary idea I had was to convert to rear wheel or a cusom awd from maybe an impreza...would take tons of work and quite a bit of cash...but would be mad on the streets....imagine the look of some jerky in his....oh let's say RSX, Mustang, Eclipse, Impreza...well the list can go further if tuned right and knowing how to drive it....I was considering doing this to my 91 LX 4 door hatch...keeping it pretty much stock looking on the outside....nothing not even clear corners...just somthign that would blend in really well...hmmmmmm...oh to dream...the main thing for me its the cash for parts on something like that....I believe it could be done...hell they put 302's into a Focus...even Ford came out wiht a kit now...and a recommended 302 crate motor that puts out 420 bhp...but it costs...alot...lol
 

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Damn I did not think that I would get this much out of this topic. Well it has helped. I will be looking for an AWD Portege. I bet i could find a recked on for little to nothing. Pull the trivedrain, gas tank, and cut the floor pan out and there we go.

Just have the drive shaft streched the 4" or so.
Weld in the Protege floor pan.
Mount in the gas tank.
Rerun the pipes.
Bolt the rear end up to my coil overs.
Drop a GTX engine
The wireing and ECU.
Through the AC in the ditch.
Turbo and intercooler.
Some tower bars.
A set of 205/40 17

Hell 2 or 3 week and about $2500 ( - the tires and wheels) and I could be making those Civic guys look twice at this little green wagon. Now I know what I will be doing with my tax return.
 
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