FEOA Forums banner
1 - 11 of 11 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
9 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
By reading the other posts here, I'm assuming the problem is a synchro going bad, but I wanted to post to know for sure.

I've got a 97 Escort 4cyl with a 5 speed trany and about 85,000 miles..
The transmission seems to be fine except going from 2nd to 3rd. If this is a $1000 (or more) repair then I may not get it fixed.

If I just keep running it like it is and just skip 3rd gear, am I going to hurt anything else? I know the engine will need to work a bit harder, but What are my chances of getting another 20-30,000 miles without another gear getting picky on me?

Would getting the fluid changed out help me at all? I think that was last done about 30,000 miles ago...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,915 Posts
If you skip 3rd gear all the time, you should be fine. It won't mess anything else up as long as you don't slam into/miss the gear when you shift into the rest of the gears.

You could see those miles if you take it easy, and changing the fluid won't be that expensive... i'd do it anyway.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,188 Posts
If you skip 3rd gear you'll be putting more stress on the 4th gear synchro since there's a larger speed differential between 4th & 2nd than there is between 4th & 3rd. You should use this opportunity to learn how to double-clutch into 3rd. That should give you another 30,000mi.

Have the fluid changed and ask them to check for filings or chunks of metal. (a few filings is normal)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
9 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Is the fluid change something easy to do? Is it any harder than changing the oil? I'm faily handy, but I've never attempted a trany fluid change before.... then I can check for filings myself.

thanks
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
103 Posts
the tranmission has its own drain / fill spot on the tranny. look inside ur escort repair manual book, if u have one. if not u should get one they are very handy.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
822 Posts
i think i have synchros going bad all over the place. sometimes it won't go back into first, like the other night it did that, then the shift from 1st to 2nd is pretty rough, sometimes it doesn't go into 2nd all the way, and then grinds because it's not in gear all the way. plus, my clutch is REALLY JERKY, and it's hard to get it just right so that it shifts smooth. my dad drove it once, and it was really jerky for him too. for the most part i get it to shift smooth though. should i get my clutch checked out, and the synchros to? is my synchros are a problem, how much would it cost to fix it? the clutch i know about. i'll just have to get a job if i need all this stuff done to my car.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
26 Posts
Your symptoms sound somewhat familiar... Oh wait, I have the same problems. 3rd Gen 99 Escort/ZX2 @ 60,000. 3rd isn't gone yet on mine, but it pops out quite frequently. Engaging the clutch is always rough, and the thing from a dead stop sometimes refuses to go into 1st or reverse. Shifting from 1st to 2nd always requires excessive force. I would love to hear some positive news for this one, but would like to hear the correct way to fix it / prevent it from getting worse.

And BTW, what exactly is the proper way to double-clutch when shifting up. I know how to do it when downshifting, but not when upshifting.

Furthermore, if you ride 2nd up to about 4,500 RPM and skip to 4th, that is okay, isn't it? You should be at sufficient velocity in 2nd @ 4,500 RPM to drop into 4th safely.

I ask these questions because I honestly don't know and would like to find out. My intent is not to contradict other posters. I would really like an answer.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
103 Posts
my pin was messed up on my throw out bearing.. n that caused the clutch to stay engaged or whatever n wear at the pressure plate n etc. so it messed up shiftin alot , one day the gears just broke n made a hole in my tranny. My dad said the broken pin was probally from the car jerkin from people driving it n not knowing how. N i had it jerkin a couple times to, but we dont know if it was my fault. I had to use force to get it into 2nd somet times before the tranny died and 3rd would act like it was still in neutral. Therefore u can tell it was the pin , because if the pin is broken, the throw out bearin wouldnt disengage , n when the throw out bearin dont disengage the clutch stays engaged causin it to stay in neutral and not go into gear causin shiftin problems alot.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7 Posts
ya

i had the some thing on my 93 egt with 3rd gear so i dove it that way for a couple of weeks and went to leave for work one morning and didnt have anything i ended up replacing the tranny and it is a hard one to find for the 1.8 engine
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
26 Posts
Actually, the throw out berring not disengaging makes a lot of sense. Sometimes when at a dead stop while shifting from another gear back into first, I hear a clunk and it feels like I am disengaging the clutch right then and there.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
103 Posts
Yea all i gotta say is if ur a mechanic and go without driving ur car for a bit, take that tranny out for a hot minute n see if its the throw out bearing because if it is thats cheap to fix.
 
1 - 11 of 11 Posts
Top