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Expired 98 escort sohc transmission side cover

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  1. 98waggin

    98waggin FEOA Member

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    I need a side cover for the transmission on my Escort wagon (98-99 model)....I need it as quickly as possible since the car is undrivable right now.
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    Was really not meant to be a for sale thread - I need a transmission side cover.
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    Is that the 5-speed transmission? I dont have such a part, but anyone who does will need to know.
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    sorry no it is an automatic. the side cover facing the drivers side frame/body. right under the battery.

    mine is rotten and pissing fluid.
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    It sounds like you are talking about the pump.
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    If the 3rd gen automatic transmissions are the same on the outside as the 2nd gen, then the rusty thing on the end of the transmission (driver's side) is the oil pump casting. I would rather believe something on the upper part of the transmission case was leaking trans fluid out, rather than that fairly heavy cast iron pump has rusted enough to leak. And if that pump casting is really where the leak is, I think the only place to get another one would be from a junkyard, or a business selling transmission hard parts.
    The stamping forming the end of the 5 speed transmissions on the other hand, is just sheet metal, not very thick at all.
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    I always thought it was a 4 speed but I could be wrong.


    Also thought it was just a stamped steel cover like a bottom pan, valve cover etc...do you have a picture of the pump you're talking about?


    Going to have to do some investigating to figure out which transmission this actually has.
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    98waggin FEOA Member

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    Here's the leaky bastard. Pretty sure it IS cast iron. 20141210_144531.jpg 20141210_144531.jpg 20141210_144531.jpg 20141210_144548.jpg 20141210_144556.jpg
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    Your pics show the cast iron end plate of a 4EAT auto tranny.
    This is much more than just an end cover. It contains the transmission hydraulic pump and many of the hydraulic pressure passages that make the tranny work.
    How bad is it leaking, and from where exactly?? Maybe you should just live with it unless the tranny needs to be removed for repair.
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    You can't drive it. As soon as it's running, it seeps fluid. It gets worse in reverse.


    I've got a local transmission shop trying to find one for me. They think they may have a few of them around somewhere but haven't needed one in years so it might be buried someplace.


    Not sure how deep the pump is - Can I R&R with the engine/transmission in the car? Not dropping the subframe on something this old and rusty would be great. Looks like it'll come out the wheel well, I'll probably need to pull the strut/spindle but I could be wrong about it coming out the wheel well.


    Thanks again!
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    I agree with millballs observation. That is the first instance I have seen of a leak from that part of the trans. I have removed them when rebuilding the transmission - and I would not try to remove one and reinstall a new one with the transmission in place; due to the need for accuracy and care in getting the new gasket (I predict the old gasket would not come off in one piece) installed and the bolts torqued down.
    I wonder it its an issue of some of the bolts not being torqued up as they should be.
    Thinking more, I wonder if the oil is coming from somewhere else. I can see the edge of the driver's side motor mount bracket in the first two pictures, and it looks oily as well. There is a rubber tube connected to the vent of the transmission, and it should have a metal end that almost looks "T" shaped. It is supposed to let the vapors in the transmission expand when it gets warmed up (hot really), and if that rubber tube was missing, I can imagine ATF would be spattering out of it. It located pretty much underneath that motor mount, not easy to see. And the air blowing around under the hood at highway speed will spread any oily liquid around quite a bit.
    So now Im curious how much transfluid you have been adding, and if you might have overfilled it.

    The plastic caps on the accumulators that are one the end of the transmission top adjacent to the bell housing can also leak - from their little "O" rings. I have that leak, and have to add half a pint of trans fluid about each 2 months.

    And yes, the F4EAT transmission is a four speed. The 4th speed is the 'overdrive' ratio.

    P.S. I would say the pump would have to slide out horizontally about 3" before you could bring it upward or downward. I dont think 2" would be far enough. The middle of the pump has a circular fitting standing up, which fits into a circular cavity of the end of the 'drum' that you will be able to see. There are nylon seal rings on the circular fitting on the pump, and they route flowing trans fluid around - so for sure you dont want to damage them.
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  12. 98waggin

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    It's not overfilled, it's actively seeping through the side cover/pump while running. Leak is a lot heavier in reverse. I put 1/2 liter of fluid in before I drove it the block back to the driveway after the leak developed, running it to check the level would be futile at this point but it's still reading on the dipstick where it normally does while off so it isn't bone dry.


    That was the only time fluid has been added in ages. Also hasn't seen highway speed to blow fluid around like that in some time...I drove it from the driveway to shop to check the exhaust leak, it started leaking while pulling it into the bay. After checking it out, I put in what fluid I had in the trunk and limped it a block to get home, that's when I took the picture. Had been running less than two minutes total.


    I guess it'll be a subframe dropping adventure, or at least lowering one side far enough to get at the business..assuming I can find a pump. Transmission shop near me says they've seen them rot out on these before.


    Thanks for your help!
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    Im glad to know about any failure mode on Escorts. Now I think I may want to put a heavy coating of primer paint on that casting on my Escorts with auto transmission. Or if not - smear axle grease onto the iron surface.
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    We are basically the heart of the rust belt...cars don't get much rustier than they get here. I've already fixed the rear strut towers and one of the dog legs on this car!


    When I get the old pump out I'll get as many pics as I can. I'll also let you know how little work you need to do to replace it in-car :D


    For what it's worth, this was painted at one point. I know it was rebuilt by a local transmission shop - They slap this exact shade of blue on everything.
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    Do you need a pump? I can go to the junkyard and pull one this weekend for you
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    Yes but they've decided to scrap the car. I really appreciate the offer though.

    There's just too much rust and old rubber to keep up with, in addition to the pump it needs complete exhaust from the manifold back, tires, struts/springs are worn and clunking, control arm bushings in the front are bad...it's been living on borrowed time for a while. Shame, the motor runs great but everything attached to it is falling apart.

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