[youngtuckers]

Hey, im new to the forums. I have a 96 escort that is my wife's first car. the 1.9 dropped a valve on the interstate on my way home one day so engine is toast. i have a 94 Camry that is in rough shape but engine and tranny is good. the escort is in great shape and sporty but the engine is toast. how do i swap the 5sfe and auto tranny into my escort. please help im in school and been laid off for bout 6 months so money is very tight, that's why i want to use the 5sfe. Thanks: Chris

 

[Jeffescortlx]

ummm.

Get out the welder and saw's-all. Hope your good at welding drive shafts together straight and good with wire trouble shooting.

 

[youngtuckers]

lol....kinda figured that. was curious bout the ecm, can i adapt the escort ecm to the yota 2.2 or will i have to take full wiring harness from camry?

 

[white-lightning]

My dad has a '97 camry and after looking at the car I don't see how you could swap all that over cheaper than pulling a 1.9L motor from the jy and installing it.

 

[Jeffescortlx]

This is very complicated question, I'm having a hard time beliving your serious.

Just do like white-lightning said, spend $100 bucks for a running 1.9 motor and save your self a couple hundred hours of labor, fabracating, re-engineering and frustration..

 

[youngtuckers]

I was just looking for someone that might have done a conversion similar to this.like i said Ive been laid off for bout 6-7 months now and don't have the extra money to buy a engine and my wife made the suggestion. i have thought about putting the 350 im putting in the jeep in it though...that would be crazy wicked. all my extra money goes to gas money for the Camry to get me to school each week.15 mpg times 1.5 hour drive one way.....cost me $20 per day to drive it to school and i also know the escort is like half the size of the Camry and the 2.2 would be crazy fast with a turbo in the super light escort.

 

[silverton]

the only conversion close enough to this is Jon using a toyota transmission.

These are escorts, people rarely do insane swaps like this just because they can. No one has ever done a toyota power plant in a ford escort before. It would probably require all mounting/fuel fabbed up with complete wiring swap.

 

[Jeffescortlx]

Custom mounts.
Custom drive shafts.
Custom engine managment and wiring.
Custom shift linkage and gas pedal cable.
Custom radiator, power steering, fuel and A/C lines/hoses.

Thats IF is fits.

By the time your done, you'll spend more in parts and tools then a new 1.9 will cost.

 

[youngtuckers]

thanks, is there a link or pics of Jon's with the yotta transmission in it. i can do a full wirring swap thats not a prob, just got rid of my camaro that had the V/8 swap, i had to do all my lines and cables custom.if the tranny fits i can make it run. as far as the custom everything I'm building an 80 model jeep CJ-7 that's got all full size with 4-wheel steer. Ive got the grinders and welder. if he put a yotta tranny in i would like to know what axle combo he used.Thanks.

 

[white-lightning]

You wouldn't be able to drive the car on the road if you go through. It is illegal to put a older motor into a newer body. It is an emissions thing of the government.

 

[youngtuckers]

I live in Alabama we aren't under all the test that most states have to go through.in fact the Camry only has a glass pack, no cats.every where u turn here there are cars and trucks running straight pipes. it really is nice living in a state that is behind times....although we still don't have gambling. Still thanks for your concern, most people wouldnt let someone know bout the things like that.

 

[white-lightning]

In virginia I know they will fail an OBDII car that doesn't have a OBDII engine. Plus if you put a 1.9 in and you get a cel you can read the code easily with a scan tool.

 

[crystal]

I guess the question i have to ask is "WHY?!?!?"

1) It won't fit. You will not be able to close the hood. Look at how it sits in your camry, it's tilted backwards at almost 30 degrees. Ok, now notice that your intake manifold is still mere inches from hitting the hood in your camry. There isn't room in the escort bay to sit this thing at the angle that it needs to be. It is a GIGANTIC motor compared to the 1.9 that was in there originally.

2) It's a rev2 5sfe, so 135hp/145tq. Doesn't sound too bad, does it? Well, it is. The motor doesn't rev, it's boring as hell.

3) It's a pile of shit. You're talking about boosting it. Don't even bother. Ever seen the rod bolts in that motor? One look, and you'll want to kick yourself in the nuts for ever wanting to throw boost at it.

4) Expensive. You won't get that motor in your car and running for less than $500, and then you're still left with a car not running (Camry.) How about you spend 20% of that number, have two running cars, and less than 8 hours of work?

Using the argument that putting the 5sfe in your escort will be economical is the most hair-brained statement i've ever heard.


Sincerely, a 5 year 5sfe-powered car owner. (Ciento44)

 

[Bomdoutscort]

Why would you talk about turboing the camry motor and say your pressed for money and the same Thread? Do yourself a favor and get a jy motor or jy head or get your head rebuilt. Go to ebay and get a rebuilt ebay head

 

[dezfreeze]

How does a Camry only get 15MPG? Oh wait, no cats and a glassspac. Really, glasspac on a Camry. For god's sake, put down the welder.

 

[ciento44]

How does a Camry only get 15MPG? Oh wait, no cats and a glassspac. Really, glasspac on a Camry. For god's sake, put down the welder.

Nah, there's something else going on there. That motor in good shape with an open header will still get damn near 30mph combined if you drive like a sane person. I get 34mpg combined in my Celica with the same motor.

 

[white-lightning]

Is the Camry motor that he is talking about the same as the 97s? I don't know Toyota too well. My dad has a 97 Camry with the 4cyl and gets almost 30mph per tank.

 

[ciento44]

Is the Camry motor that he is talking about the same as the 97s? I don't know Toyota too well. My dad has a 97 Camry with the 4cyl and gets almost 30mph per tank.

Yeah, same motor.

Was in Celicas from 90-99, All n/a SW20 MR2s, and Camrys from like 92 til 02 or something.

 

[Cymmantix]

15mpg? Please. I've got a '99 with the 5S-FE, auto trans. I routinely get 27 mpg in mixed driving (about 50/50 city and highway). Something just isn't right about that.

That said... props for the original idea, I guess. But just get a junkyard 1.9 (as these guys have said). You will save yourself much poopiness.

 

[therieldeal]

Custom mounts.
Custom drive shafts.
Custom engine managment and wiring.
Custom shift linkage and gas pedal cable.
Custom radiator, power steering, fuel and A/C lines/hoses.

Thats IF is fits.

By the time your done, you'll spend more in parts and tools then a new 1.9 will cost.

things you actually wont need:
custom axles (use celica axles)
custom shift linkage (use celica linkage and shifter)

everything else needs to be custom. and as jeff says... that is all IF it fits.