Discussion in '3rd Gen 1997-2002 2.0L SOHC' started by 1funryd, Jul 3, 2015.
500+ miles and running strong....
How about now? Any new issues or updates?
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Yes, the head is running great no issues whatsoever.
Mileage is around 114,000ish. So approximately 1919 miles on the head.
Awesome! Thanks for posting up your experiences. I'm about to embark on the same repair for two family members' 1997 Tracers. This thread will be invaluable!
I have a thread over the valve seat issue. It has a lot of pictures and some helpful info. Should be able to find it via googling valve seat carnage feoa
Wow, Gamer! Excellent thread too! Just subscribed to it as well... and then read it in its entirety! That makes *two* threads I'll be referencing while doing these repairs. You guys are great!
Thank goodness neither car dropped its seats. Only blown head gasket in one (which I'm going to get an eBay rebuilt head for)... and in the other, hmm... well... its story goes a bit like this:
I replaced the water pump and timing belt after it sat for 6+ months, maybe longer. Took it on a test drive, and at first it sounded/ran fine. Then started hearing light ticking after exiting the interstate. Thought it was a vacuum line issue, so carefully drove it back to my house... and noticed oil light flickering slightly at idle as I pulled into the driveway. Subsequent drives up and down the street have gotten much worse. Now, the oil light comes on once engine is warm, and shortly thereafter engine starts ticking and shuts down... especially if under load. Oil dipstick dry when this happens, taking 20-30 minutes to drain back down and register on it. Turns out the oil hadn't been changed in *years*! When I did the oil change for my dear family member, it goo'ed out *very* thick and black. So, I'm guessing crap settled out of the oil while it sat up for half a year, and then said crap in the pan sucked up into the pump and is now clogging oil galleys? Not even sure what it'll need or how to fix it, but guessing that removing the head will give me some idea...
Before investing any time and money into the 2nd car, I would do a couple more oil changes (with cheap 5W-20 oil and a cheap filter) and drive the car for 15 min to a half hour (unless the oil light comes on) each time to try to clear the crap out of the galleys and lifters. Consider using a can of motor flush as directed, too (which is basically kerosene) just before the 2nd change. You may have damaged the main and/or rod bearings by running it with goo. After the 2nd change, fill it up with 5W-30 or 10W-40 and see if it now behaves and sounds normal. If the oil light still comes on, esp with 10W-40 after it gets hot, it might not be worth putting on a rebuilt head.
First I would do as rbailin posted above and see what the engine is like.
Back many years ago some old school mechanics recommended using an 50-50 mix of motor oil and kerosene to flush out a badly maintained engine. I never did it myself. Most likely it would not harm the engine if you didn't drive it hard, keeping the rpm low and only for a short time.
Back in my days in school. I had an instructor in one class that had been an Army motor pool mechanic. He said if in a situation that an engine has lost all the oil, don't run it dry! If you can't find any oil to fill the crankcase up with then use about any liquid including water but not gasoline. Yes water, better than running the engine dry. This was in a combat situation he was talking about. What a wonderful instructor. We were treated with many WWII war stories.
Thanks guys! Great info! I really like this forum!
UPDATE: Turns out that engine was too far gone. No amount of oil changes, motor flush/kerosene additives, or prayer could bring it back. Engine literally turned red-hot while running another oil change through it, driving it around the block. Melted the oil filter to the block, killed a few sensors, and never would start again. We were going to keep the body for parts for the other Tracer, but he ended up trading it in on a brand new car via a Push-Pull-or-Drag it sale.
11500ish miles and still running good.
116198 miles on the head and still no issues.
Time for another oil change.
Although I am beginning to wonder if I may need to flush my heater core. It gets warm but not hot.
And this while I commute 42 miles each way.
When I had my 98 Mercury Tracer, it would get very hot.
Been reading up on some threads to see if this was a common issue.
I will flush the heater core and get back to you guys.
So what did you find? Was there just a bit of air in the system?
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Sorry forgot to respond.
As for now I still have not back flushed the heater core, but I will get to it.
Its not that its not getting hot, its just not as hot as I remember it too be.
120,000 miles. Since the head was replaced. So far the head is holding up good.
Well guys it was good while it lasted. - Mileage was 124,400
I was in an accident on 1/4/2016 and the escort is totalled.
I just picked up a 96 corolla in better condition than the escort and now I am getting better gas mileage as well 31-35mpg.
Funny thing is the color for the corolla is dark green as well.
Thanks to those who helped out in the community.
Sorry to hear that.
What part of the car was damaged?
The whole front end, the insurance totalled it out and I let them take it because I needed space in front of my house.
It was not drivable, and there was frame damage.
The engine was still good, and the rest of the car.
The insurance quoted $5500.00 to fix.
It was my daily driver so I needed to get back to work so I got paid some money from the accident and got me a 96 corolla.
I did not even take a picture before the insurance took it off of me and sent me the paper work to sign it off.
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