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Drivetrain 1998 wagon 2.0 sohc 5 speed

Discussion in 'Drivetrains' started by AE Donn, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. AE Donn

    AE Donn FEOA Member

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    Recent purchase of a 98 wagon, 2.o sohc with 5 speed that made a lot of noise when you start it and louder when clutch was engaged. So I figured the clutch/throughout bearing failed, well that is not what i found. The crankshaft had broken between the rear main seal and first con rod. No damage to the enigne, so i remove engine installed remanfactured crank, bearings and while I have it apart new clutch, pp and TO bearing. Today I finally got it all back together but the chassis braces under the car and figured i would put in battery and see if it would start.

    Nothing happen, no lights at the dash nothing so I looked around and under and found on the trans a sending unit or sensor on the trans right side pointing towards the center of the car. It has 2 green wires coming out, 1 is broken and the other has a strand holding on. First what is it? Second would that be why i have nothing when i turn the key? Any help welcome.
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    just found a photo on net,,,you can see the sensor and wires.[​IMG] under the CV opening.
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    cklaubur Former Escort Owner

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    I don't think that's your problem. Those wires have been broken on my '97 for about 2 years now, and it starts just fine. That switch, from what I understand, is supposed to tell the engine computer when the transmission is in neutral, but it doesn't seem to have a noticeable effect on the car.

    No lights on the dash implies either a problem with the ignition switch or a battery problem. Does the interior light come on (assuming the switch is in the "ON" or "DOOR" position)?

    Casey
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    LariRudi FEOA Donator

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    For whatever it's worth, I stuck my nose in on this thread and ended up admitting that I needed to learn more. In any case, here is a discussion on some "manual transmission fittings/connectors".

    [Edit; forgot to show this link:

    https://www.feoa.net/threads/need-help-to-id-connectors-on-manual-trans.82647/#post-734960 end of edit]

    But I'm with cklaubur above; no lights on dash is and early clue..... There's something that might not be hooked up from your engine/crankshaft replacement.

    Good Luck

    LarryR
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    There are no lights, dome or dash. I am thinking a ground issue...the battery works in the other car I have but will check it out more tonight...thanks guys.
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    Do your headlights work?

    I only have a 1997 Ford manual but I'm hoping some similarities.

    And you did "nothing" under the dash, right? The only "starter" grounding I see is, uhh, the main battery ground and the starter seems to be "self grounded" in two places.

    Check the "Room" and "Meter" fuses in your fuse box by driver's left knee.

    And of course, check the fuses in the fuse box under the hood, tho I've come up with no specifics at this point.

    I was harping about an "Inhibit Relay" on another thread, and I see it here in the starter circuit again............. and again, I'm mentioning it because the "Room" fuse feeds it's relay coil, and the "contact" provides a path to the starter.... other folks seem to think it doesn't "matter", but again, I say it's shown in the circuit; it's contact feeds the starter circuit.

    Again, I realize you probably did nothing under the dash, but those fuses oughta be checked out.

    [Edit; and of course the ignition switch feeds a multitude of things, so it's always suspect, but for it to fail at this point in time would be quite a coincidence].

    Good Luck,

    LarryR
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    it ran before I removed engine/trans installed crankshaft and clutch, pressure plate, TO bearing and installed back into car. No dash lights, no interior lights, no head lights and I didn't do anything under the dash. It must be a ground or I missed a connection somewhere. I will work on it tonight after work.
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    Forgive me pls when I tell you something you already know, but of course the batt positive has to be run to the starter, and check all those fuses.

    LarryR
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    No worries, got the starter connected but I will have to check all the connections tonight. The other thing I wondered if there is a picture out there that I make sure the 2 brackets down at the transmission or mounted in the right spots. I believe then are I went the junk yard and see a car and followed the layout.
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    cklaubur Former Escort Owner

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    How do the battery terminals look?

    Casey
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    They are clean...didn't make it in time to check things over last night, I will try it today...
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    cklaubur Former Escort Owner

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    Any cracks on the terminals? Speaking from experience here, a cracked terminal can prevent the car from starting.

    Casey
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    I just came back from Tuttle Click Ford in Irvine,,,if any of you wondered what the switch is in the photo of the transmissions under right side CV seal its a Gear Shift position switch! As it was explained to me..it tells the light on your cluster to shift for max fuel economy. Now that I know cutting the wires and ignoring it!!!!! ;)

    On the paper they printed for me...#99566-1400 no longer available.
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    cklaubur Former Escort Owner

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    That can't be right. My shift light on my '97 still works perfectly with those wires broken.

    Casey
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    Do your backup lights work

    I've got a 1997 wiring manual, and it shows something called a "Backup/Upshift Switch"........ sheeesh, don't see how that can do BOTH, but those are the words on the diagram, page 93-1. Also confusing is that they show the wires to be BK/Y and R/GN and is fed by the fuse labeled "METER" in the fuse box by the driver's knee. Then it shows that feeding both backup lights. On this page it does not show it doing anything with the "shift indicator lamp", but it's title implies it

    Then on another wiring pages 60-3 and 61-3 [depends if you have sport or standard cluster], it identifies the lamp in the instrument cluster as the "upshift indicator" lamp, but the wiring only shows THAT going to the PCM..............

    I've often found that with stuff like this scattered on various pages they leave certain items out to "simplify" things for us, ha.... but their absence only makes me wonder MORE.

    It's comforting to me to know that THAT lamp is also fed by fuse labeled "METER", but I've found no connecting wires between the lamp and our subject "switch" [omitted for our "convenience"?].

    I forgot what the speculation was for the "third" connector; let's see we have this subject switch, the VSS, and what were the thoughts on the other? I'll have to review this thread and see what was mentioned.

    I think it's important to know if your backup lights are working or not?

    LarryR
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    Oh, the third is the P-N-P switch that blows my mind..... thought only automatics have those, but Service Manual shows it on page 308-03-15.... and it shows a picture with two wires; on another wiring diagram page 23-5 they call it the "Neutral Switch"..... but it's function is hidden; it comes "from" the PCM through the engine compartment fuse box, into THIS "Neutral Switch", back into the engine fuse box, and then to a myriad of other things..... including going back into the PCM, so it's not clear to me what it IS doing, other than detecting "Neutral".

    And it's very disconcerting to me, they show a jillion wire colors on everything, but NOT ON THIS ITEM.... ha, wires have no color labels on them. Was hoping for GREEN : ).

    LarryR
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    When I did my mtx swap I couldn't find the wires to connect this switch. So its not hooked up. I don't have an up shift light tho. Even replaced the bulb.
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    That is interesting...maybe the guy just wanted me to go away...and gave me the story!
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    Use a jumper cable and ground the negative battery terminal to the engine or frame. On my 98 the negative battery cable was internally corroded and I had no lights or anything either.

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