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See my 1993 post for a few more details, but it sat 3 years or more. I had to resurrect it due to the 1993 SW problem. I waste more cars by ignoring them than by driving them. So here I am, proving it again, ha.

Short story, drove it only one day so far, RUNS WELL, BUT....... one, CEL on continuously. two, hard or impossible to shift. Checked fluid level and it seemed to be full, but added some more to which point I'd consider "slightly overfilled". No improvement. Yes, sometimes double or triple clutching gets me by, but sometimes have to shut engine off at a red light. That was yesterday, checked fluid this morning and still "slight overfill" so I'll drive it again today and am prepared to follow the previous mentioned procedures; I've no fear of "getting by", but it's not fun. Comments invited.

Oops, I did the second first, now the first. CEL on continuously. Ran the blinking test SEVERAL times; scratching my head. I'll drive it today and will report back tonight, but here's what I did and found.
Hmmm, three digit codes for 1994? I THOUGHT my 1993 has two digit codes?????? anyways, I got 522, 522, a longer delay and a "one", then a 214 and 214. So I'm puzzled about that "one" in the middle?????
522 is "cylinder ID". Puzzling but it runs ok; did approx 35 miles yesterday. 214 is clutch pedal adjustment out; hmmmm, it starts ok, but WONDERING if that could be the reason for hard/difficult shifting?
I admit that I'm thinking the hard shifting is NOT due to 214, but open to other opinions.

Now here's a boo boo I didn't mention yet. Before I ran the CEL tests this morning, I went to put in the paper clip and guess what I FOUND? A paper clip was ALREADY IN PLACE. So that means I did my yesterdays travels with the jumper IN PLACE. So, I removed the jumper an hour ago, gonna drive it another 35 miles or so, and will report back tonight.
I'll listen to any comments.
Thanks.
 

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I had a rough shifting Zx2. I drained the fluid and filled it with synchromesh and it helped a bunch. Not perfect, but definitely improved.
 

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I had a rough shifting Zx2. I drained the fluid and filled it with synchromesh and it helped a bunch. Not perfect, but definitely improved.
I appreciate that thought, but on my fifth Escort, four Gen 2's, a 1993 1.9 SW manual trans that I totalled, another 1993 twin gold SW 1.9 manual trans with 272K that has the front left broken spring, a cousin 1994 1.9 SW manual trans with 301K, and this 1994 1.9 manual trans, 2 door sedan. So I'm aware of the importance of "thin" trans fluid. Going by memory they started out with Ford type "F", then later to Mercon IV? or Mercon V? so I've not felt the need to try new trans fluid except to AVOID the 80-90W that some folks have reported on. I'm really believing that the problem is in my clutch. Here's why. Most always after the third or fourth shift, hard to get into gear unless engine off. AND, if idling at a red light, I better get it into first gear FAST or will become difficult, and once IN first, during idle, the clutch will start to grab, the idle starts to decrease, and on a long red light, it'll grab so hard that it'll ALMOST die, then dies. Then the usual, pump clutch 3 or 4 times and it'll go into gear. Parallel parking, hafta stop engine MULTIPLE times to change from 1st to Rev. So I did another 35-40 miles in Denver town, and no need to get embarrassed or scared at a red light or a traffic jam, just be prepared to follow all those rules I outlined above. So, after a prolonged idle, the clutch just continues to start to grab, grabbing more and more until it stalls the engine. When backing up, engine off, put in reverse and car starts to go NOW, even when clutch is depressed fully. If I knew more about master and slave cylinders, I'd be questioning them?????? What do y'all think?
 

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See my 1993 post for a few more details, but it sat 3 years or more. I had to resurrect it due to the 1993 SW problem. I waste more cars by ignoring them than by driving them. So here I am, proving it again, ha.

Short story, drove it only one day so far, RUNS WELL, BUT....... one, CEL on continuously. two, hard or impossible to shift. Checked fluid level and it seemed to be full, but added some more to which point I'd consider "slightly overfilled". No improvement. Yes, sometimes double or triple clutching gets me by, but sometimes have to shut engine off at a red light. That was yesterday, checked fluid this morning and still "slight overfill" so I'll drive it again today and am prepared to follow the previous mentioned procedures; I've no fear of "getting by", but it's not fun. Comments invited.

Oops, I did the second first, now the first. CEL on continuously. Ran the blinking test SEVERAL times; scratching my head. I'll drive it today and will report back tonight, but here's what I did and found.
Hmmm, three digit codes for 1994? I THOUGHT my 1993 has two digit codes?????? anyways, I got 522, 522, a longer delay and a "one", then a 214 and 214. So I'm puzzled about that "one" in the middle?????
522 is "cylinder ID". Puzzling but it runs ok; did approx 35 miles yesterday. 214 is clutch pedal adjustment out; hmmmm, it starts ok, but WONDERING if that could be the reason for hard/difficult shifting?
I admit that I'm thinking the hard shifting is NOT due to 214, but open to other opinions.

Now here's a boo boo I didn't mention yet. Before I ran the CEL tests this morning, I went to put in the paper clip and guess what I FOUND? A paper clip was ALREADY IN PLACE. So that means I did my yesterdays travels with the jumper IN PLACE. So, I removed the jumper an hour ago, gonna drive it another 35 miles or so, and will report back tonight.
I'll listen to any comments.
Thanks.

Update. I left the batt disconnected an hour and a half. Took off on my usual 17.5 mile trip [one way] and one, the CEL came on immediately and stayed on the whole distance. So hooked up the jumper to count flashes, and the same; 522, 522, 214, and 214. Although a pesky "1" showed up between the second 522 and the first 214. Yes, I was alert enough to REMOVE the jumper this time. Like I say, engine is running well. Drove home the return 17.5 miles and the same story.
 

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Does sound like a leaking master/slave. Slave is easy to do and cheap.
 
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You young[er] guys can chuckle, permission granted, but me being OLD, I often say that if I DID have a memory, I'd forget where I PUT it.

So my clutch is getting worse every day, so yes, maybe adjust clutch pedal free play, change slave cyl, change clutch Master Cyl, THEN absorb this reminder:

Drivetrain - Clutch not opening my gears, but I have new.... 4Cylinder's post number four. Suggests the pilot bearing.

SHEEESH. That DID in fact happen to me back in 2008, 2009? or somewhere there on my OTHER 1993 gold Escort SW 1.9; I posted it all somewhere back then. He received some disagreement, but let me remind you doubters that if the pilot bearing is not spinning smoothly, or is worn or damaged, it'll make the trans input shaft spin even while the clutch is depressed, and making shifting difficult, or even IMPOSSIBLE. So now I'm experiencing the same thing on this 2door 1994 1.9.

So the pilot bearing is on my DREADED possibility list now. I should've known. Thanks 4Cylinder if you're still out there.
 
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Does this sound like your problem, LariRudi?


In my case, I really doubted it would be the slave cylinder, but replacing it solved my issues completely!

I would definitely check out your pedal distance. It's really easy to change!
 
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