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Drivetrain 1993 EGT Wont Move- intechange and swap ?'s

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    low bass New Member

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    my little daily driver egt has recently for the first time even left me stranded. the transmission gives to feedback. i did notice that when i went load it on my trailer i could get just a small amount of drive out of it at first/cold start up.

    Iv done the obvious like check fluid level, axles and linkage, so im thinking internal failure. problem is i cant find a replacement trans anywhere locally. So onto questions i have, are there other transmissions that will work, 1.9, 2.0 ect? And the other how about the 5spd swap, is it straight forward?
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    Automatic or manual?
    How many miles are on this transmission?
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    Automatic Transmission! Not Sure On Mileage, For What Reason Do You Ask About Mileage???


    THANKS
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    zzyzzx makes good points. You can measure the line pressure in the transmission, with a set I got form ebay for about $35. You would need to do this with any automatic transmission you replaced yours with.

    How long have you owned the car, in miles?

    I did not think that an Escort transmission would make it to 300,000 miles unless its life had been spent in making a very long commute where it spent most of the distance in the OverDrive gear, (4th) and didnt see much urban or suburban distance: Or was kept in Drive (rather than in OverDrive) when used in the suburbs at the lower speeds).

    I like 2nd gen Escorts so well that I now own four of them, with another two of them used in my family. I bought each one with symptoms like you describe, and rebuilt the transmissions.
    1. The 92LX stopped at a stop sign, and wouldnt pull forward or back-up. With the wheels off the ground they would rotate in the gears, but wouldnt pull the car anywhere. It had been in the family since new, so we knew it had 192k on it (they didnt have the 6th digit till 1995), and that it had been mostly used for a 30 mile commute.
    2. The 93LX with either 159k or 259k would move on level ground in Low, but not go up any hills. I had to winch it onto my tow dolly. The worn out transmission in it turned out to be a poorly done rebuilt unit.
    3. The 95LX I got would move about half a mile on a cold engine/transmission before it would slip so much you couldnt get it to move again. It had 254,000 miles on it, and had suffered an internal mechanical failure. That trans was also already a rebuilt, but now unrepairable.
    4. I got a 91LX hatchback from a family who knew its history & having 139,000 miles on it. Also its transmission would not pull the car forward, but you could put it in gear with the engine running and easily push it forward.
    In each case when I rebuilt the trans I found the clutch packs worn out; with roasted frictionals as the obvious problem. The 3-4 clutch pack was usually the one worn the most.

    For the one having an internal unrepairable failure, I got a junkyard F4EAT “guaranteed for 30 days”, but put the master rebuild kit into it anyway, along with the Transgo shift kit. With each of the rebuilds I used a rebuilt torque converter. The rebuilt tc's ones are better than the OEM ones, due to the industry knowing what the weak points are.
    I consider them to be a fairly easy rebuild. I figure anyone who can rebuild an Escort engine, can rebuild the F4EAT transmission. Full instructions in the Ford Escort/Tracer Tech Manual.
    But them Im retired, have the time, and need the exercise and the satisfaction.

    One thing to check on: On my LX's there is a cable running from the same bracket as the throttle cable, down into the top front (driver's side) of the transmission. This is how the transmission know hows much fluid pressure to use for shifting. Lower pressure for gentle acceleration, higher pressure for urgent acceleration. If that cable broke, the trans might slip so much it would become non-functional. The way to check it is to see if the cable is still more or less taut, but can be pulled out a little – and will pull back of its own accord. You dont even have to unbolt it to learn this. The position that cable is clamped in should be set using the trans pressure testing set. If the cable has been unclamped and reclamped in the wrong position – it can cause problems. Be careful with the cable. I dont think Ford carries them anymore. I got one from a Mazda dealer a few years back – for $100. When getting a F4EAT transmission from a junkyard, some JY's just cut the cable. Some take the trouble to save it.

    You have to open the transmission to replace that cable; possibly needing to take the valve body out also.

    I have never tried swapping from an automatic to a manual; but its not plug-and-play. I will send you a 'conversation' with my opinion about swapping to a manual transmission.
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    Actually I have a pretty short commute right now (~13 miles), but I used to commute in DC with it for years! Pretty much all my driving in suburban, and the last time I took the car "far" away from home I went to Bethesda (earlier this week, I still go to a dentist there since I used to live in Montgomery County).
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    Good point about the cable adjustment on 1997 and earlier. I recommend arbitrarily slightly adjusting the pressure higher on older transmissions to make up for cable stretch.

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