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I'm still new to my use 97 Escort Wagon, however, I know 120 or 127 psi is normal and my car has consistent 100 psi all four cylinders.

Any experts out tell me what this means beyond having less power and poorer gas milage.

Odometer says 110,000 mile but I have been suspicious from beginning.

Thx ahead of time.

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Probably the rings are getting worn is the reason for the lower numbers. Try putting a little oil in the cylinder and recheck the compression. If the numbers come up then the rings are worn. Otherwise it sounds like the engine is with specification. The numbers should be within about 10% of each other.
 

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celery952 said:
a healthy stock motor should be 130 -140 100 is by no means horrible tho
Thx to both you and Fordman. Perhaps I misread my source for 120-127 psi.

In one of these Escort groups a dude says he's got 400,000 on his 2.0 Escort.

Next oil change I will begin a engine oil cleaning treatment using stuff I learned about in a Festiva group. Auto RX.

If I maintain my 2.0 automatic Escort then perhaps it will go long time still.

I'm very good with matitenance, so......onlyo time will tell.

Thx again for any future tips, idea, thoughs etc......

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One of my '88 Escorts with a 1.9L has 494K miles and still has the original engine in it and has never been rebuilt. It's currently using a quart of oil about every 1000-1200 miles, but it's still ticking. I checked the compression on the cylinders in it about a year ago and they ranged from about 105-120 if I remember right. I know they were all above 100. I think they were 120-110-110 and 105, but I'm not sure of that. Lots of people will disagree with me on this, but I have used a quart of Slick 50 or similar product in it every 50K miles since I got it with about 150K miles on it. I thnk that has contributed to part of it's longevity??? Of course I have also kept the oil changed regularly (dino) every 3-5K miles and kept up the other maintenance on it. I started using a product called LC-20 in it about 20K miles ago and they recommend oil change intervals of 10K miles so I decided to try it on this car to see what kind of results I get. With the condition of this car even if it blows up it's not much gone. So far I haven't seen any increase in oil consumption from 2 longer change intervals and can tell it is slowly cleaning the engine out.
 

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FordMan59 said:
One of my '88 Escorts with a 1.9L has 494K miles and still has the original engine in it and has never been rebuilt. It's currently using a quart of oil about every 1000-1200 miles, but it's still ticking. I checked the compression on the cylinders in it about a year ago and they ranged from about 105-120 if I remember right. I know they were all above 100. I think they were 120-110-110 and 105, but I'm not sure of that.
Ahh, ok, so your that dude! Excellent! Maybe somebody abused this Escort of mind.

Do you know anything about nosiy( humming moderately loud ) fuel pump/

Thx Rybo
 

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marclar said:
could hvae a jumpted timing belt. or a worn timing belt tentioner
This moderately high pitched whine is not near the timing belt and tensioner which have been replaced with no associated nosiy.

The 2nddary accessory belt pulley is nosiy also and my #1 mechanic thought I should replace it some weeks ago but have not.

Seperate issue at this time.

thx for any and all consideration but I'm confident it is fuel pump this time.

Again I think this is all due to my #2 mechanic have it parked on its side a steep angle ergo the light coming on immediately and then going off after 5 minutes because fuel was not, in reality that low.

#1 mechanic does not believe fuel pump starting to whine is related to that incident.

Anyway here I sit depating wether to wait and see or tear into that sucker. Decisions decisions..............Rybo
 

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Do you hear the noise when you turn the key to the on possiton without the car running or does it just make the humming noise then? Do you think it could be the strainer filter on the bottom of the pump dirty causing it to over work the pump?
 

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Do you hear the noise when you turn the key to the on possiton without the car running or does it just make the humming noise then? Do you think it could be the strainer filter on the bottom of the pump dirty causing it to over work the pump?
Well, I installed new pump and strainer sock on bottom of it.

Started no problem. Humming is just as loud if not louder. :--(

Ok, so I drive to gas station to fill it and see if that will help.

Just as I get near full I hear gas ddripping out of gas tank on to ground. :--(

So, rusty inner and outer rings have been problematic from very beginning.

We had to pry and bend the little lip flanges on the outer ring to break loose the the inner ring.

The inner ring flanges slides under the outer ring flanges.

I maybe could just try getting a new inner ring --the outer ring is a part of the gas tank--- and see if it would hold better as it would be in better shape than the old inner ring, however, since this a dangerous area to know if it ever developed a leak, I'm going to search of a new one on-line.

There is a used 98 wagon 35 miles from here. So, that may be a possibility.

Shooting myself is also an option. Ha! :-D
Rybo

P.S. yes the fuel pump hums when I turn on the key then it stops. I guess this hum /whine is about the same sound except it is a constant.
 

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Rybo said:
the fuel pump hums when I turn on the key then it stops.
thats called a priming pulse. the pump presurized the initla fuel pressure for initial start. as soon as you crank the pump will come on constantluy
 

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Rybo said:
the fuel pump hums when I turn on the key then it stops.
thats called a priming pulse. the pump presurized the initla fuel pressure for initial start. as soon as you crank the pump will come on constantluy
Yeah, I'm familiar. Fordman wanted clarification to be sure I was not confused.

The constant moderatly loud humming was new and what made me suspect the fuel punp was going bad. Should have listend to m #1 mechanic and just lived with it.

Now the new pump also hummed too loud??????????

Now I'm looking at getting car towed a 2nd time( to a shop ), a new fuel tank( $192. ) and the labor cost of installation, not to mention i'm still not driving my new used car around. :--(

I found an on-line site with the locking /retaining ring for 4.95 but since we bent the flanges on the tanks rusty metal ring I would always be nervous that it would leak even ifI put on the new inner removable ring and fuel does not leak out.

The rust on the tank ring is not all that bad that it looks weak, just bending those little flanges back is going to be a challenge, especially with all that gas there --sparks and all-- and the chances of getting more metal flakes into the tank etc......:--(

I may price a used tank out of junker but the one junker I found is sitting on flat on ground cause wheels are off. :--( Not conducive to a non-damaged tank.

So, it is starting to appear, that, I will have and additional $5-700.00 painful dollars invested in car. That will bring total, not including sales tax, to 3600 - $4000.

Life's full of curves, dips, hills, rain, snow, congestion etc.......at this point I just hope I get to drive this Escort in all of those conditions *some day.* ..Ha! Ha!

Rybo
 
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