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1.9L CVH H.O build up on a budget

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  1. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

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    I´m going to look at some Escort GT´s over the next couple of days.
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    <BR> I have one of the older Ford High Performance manuals from the mid 80´s and I still have the Roush buildup for an 1.9L Escort engine with dual webers and an SVO solid lifter cam.
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    <BR> Sadly alot of those parts aren´t available any more and I´m more of an EFI guy anyway.
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    <BR> So my goal for the 1.9L H.O engine is to at least keep up with D series Hondas, most of them about the same weight.
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    <BR> I figure I need about 140hp to be competitive and about 150-160hp to be able to beat them on a regular basis, which means high 14 second 1/4 miles.
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    <BR> Maybe I can, maybe I can´t that´s why I´m posting. Let me list when I think I need and I welcome your input -
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    <BR> Starting off with a high mileage engine. Not the best place to start, but I have bigger plans down road and I don´t wanna spent a ton in making it faster. If all I can get is mid to low 15´s on drag radials I´ll be happy, that´s faster than most Escort GT´s anyway.
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    <BR> 1.9L H.O block and head
    <BR> Junkyard H.O head - milled for 11:1 compression and ported by GUDE
    <BR> OEM H.O camshaft, Crane springs, new seals, etc during porting
    <BR> Port-match and Ported Intake Manifold
    <BR> EscortFocus Performance 50mm throttle body
    <BR> Port Match and Ported OEM H.O exhaust manifold
    <BR> EscortFocus Performance underdrive pulley (25%)
    <BR> Accel Kool Flow Kit (Ram Air type CAI kit)
    <BR> Diablo Chip 6500rpm with two maps - 91 octane and 100 octane unleaded
    <BR> 2.25" Mandel Bent Exhaust with resonator and straight-though muffler
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    <BR> I haven´t priced it out totally, but I figure about $1,500 should cover most of it. The GUDE head would be about $500. 2 map Diablo chip is about $300, Accel´s Kool Flow kit is $200, seems kinda high, but I can prolly find it cheaper at Summit or Jegs or PAW locally
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    <BR> Peak numbers -
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    <BR> Straighting out the exhaust should be worth about 10hp
    <BR> Basic clean up and porting of the head with intake - 10-12hp
    <BR> Throttlebody and CAI - 10-12hp
    <BR> Chips and tunng - 10-12hp on 91 map, 12-14hp on 100 octane map
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    <BR> All that should take me from just over 90hp at the wheels to around 130-140hp peak, but between 4000-6500rpm it should scream, for an Escort...
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    <BR> Comments, Opinons?
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    <BR> Anthony Thomas
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  2. Roboskittle

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    you know for about 3 grand you can get a wicked motor set up and turbo thrown on that thing and turn twice that. thas what im doing
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  3. dj4monie

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    Well if I really planned on something long term, I would think about it. I do remember Thomas Knight having turbo kits for various cars and I found his new web site and some pages leftover from his old one. $3000 for a full turbo kit, including a Garrett T3 (not sure on any specs), front mounted intercooler and basic fuel system.
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    <BR> Not bad, but prolly a bad idea for a high mileage engine. You´re just asking for blow-by with old rings and heavy boost.
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    <BR> This car´s goal in life is to continue my work as a courier, the main project is the Neon SRT-4 I hope to pick up around Sept. But I need the a car to get back on the road. That´s why I picked an Escort, easy to find and usually very cheap to buy and work on.
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    <BR> Thanks for the suggestion but big power numbers is not the goal of this car.
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    <!-- BBCode Quote Start --><TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font size=-1>Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT SIZE=-1><BLOCKQUOTE> I have one of the older Ford High Performance manuals from the mid 80´s and I still have the Roush buildup for an 1.9L Escort engine with dual webers and an SVO solid lifter cam.
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    <BR>This is a book you have? How detailed is it on CVH and the roush setup? I´d be interested in purchasing it from you when your done with your buildup. It would be a great resource for this site.
  5. Jeffescortlx

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    Have you read Phils story, he had a 1st gen 1.9 HO GT, EXP Turbo manifold and CPU , 2.3 TC Turbo, CFI dished pistons, FMIC and a fuel system.
    <BR>Before he put the project down, he had over 300 hp to the wheels.
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    <BR>Is a chip really needed for a first gen? You can advance timing by turning the disribitor cap, and adjust A/F ratio with a A-FPR and a A/F gauge?
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    <BR>Anyways my Second Gen weighs about the same as your first, and my 3rd gen motor make´s simular power to a first gen GT. I have 111 hp to the wheels and I can keep up with most mild honda´s,(as long as thay just have bolt ons) I was kick´n but at the last drag strip I went to. :-]
  6. dj4monie

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    <BR> 06-05-2003 at 10:36, egtdude wrote:
    <BR><!-- BBCode Quote Start --><TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font size=-1>Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT SIZE=-1><BLOCKQUOTE> I have one of the older Ford High Performance manuals from the mid 80´s and I still have the Roush buildup for an 1.9L Escort engine with dual webers and an SVO solid lifter cam.
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    <BR>This is a book you have? How detailed is it on CVH and the roush setup? I´d be interested in purchasing it from you when your done with your buildup. It would be a great resource for this site.
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    <BR> Very Detailed!
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    <BR> Nothing special just covered some known issues with the lower end. It also said that the H.O head is the best choice, but only if you can´t get ot afford the eurpean market head. I´m sure you can find an EAO head from some of the UK Escort board members, but I dunno if the port designs are that much better for the additional cost and trouble of finding one.
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    <BR> Basically the engine built uses a bunch of discontinued parts from SVO. It used a solid lifter cam that´s not available anymore, SVO dome pistons (12:1) that were machined for 11:1, Euro head, OEM H.O exhaust manifold, the head was ported and a redline manifold with 40mm Webers. It also had a Duraspark distb and MSD box
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    <BR> No dyno numbers but they thought around 160-170hp.
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    <BR> If you want FULL details I can scan the pages I still have and e-mail them, cause it´s like two pages and I rather not type it!
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    <BR> Let me know...
  7. dj4monie

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    <BR> 06-05-2003 at 13:27, Jeffescortlx wrote:
    <BR>Have you read Phils story, he had a 1st gen 1.9 HO GT, EXP Turbo manifold and CPU , 2.3 TC Turbo, CFI dished pistons, FMIC and a fuel system.
    <BR>Before he put the project down, he had over 300 hp to the wheels.
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    <BR> Yeah I remember reading about that, that guy was from southern california also. That page is still up. So is the page about the guy that built his EXP and ran 12´s with it basically OEM parts.
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    <BR> I don´t think you can do that for under $1,500 and I don´t like buying a ton of used stuff unless I know where it´s been.
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    <BR>Is a chip really needed for a first gen? You can advance timing by turning the disribitor cap, and adjust A/F ratio with a A-FPR and a A/F gauge?
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    <BR>Well maybe not, but I like chips over turning stuff. You can turn most honda and nissan like that, but they run better with chips or programing.
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    <BR>Anyways my Second Gen weighs about the same as your first, and my 3rd gen motor make´s simular power to a first gen GT. I have 111 hp to the wheels and I can keep up with most mild honda´s,(as long as thay just have bolt ons) I was kick´n but at the last drag strip I went to. :-]
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    <BR> Well with a 2nd gen I would consider a 1.6L BPT swap in a minute, but that´s only if I got an 2nd gen Escort. Mazda 323´s are cheap too and they can use the same engine. Even a 1.8L V6 from all those MX-3 guys swaping over to the 2.5L.
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    <BR> I have alot of ideas moving around in my head... If I got a CVH powered Escort, this is pretty much the plan.
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    <BR> 07-05-2003 at 03:23, dj4monie wrote:
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    <BR> I don´t think you can do that for under $1,500 and I don´t like buying a ton of used stuff unless I know where it´s been.
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    <BR>I have around $500 invested, I have EXP turbo/mani/down pipe, cartech FMU, Intercooler and BOV.
    <BR>I still need 24# injectors, A-FPR and Gauges.
    <BR>I should be way below the $1500 mark. ;-)
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    <BR> 07-05-2003 at 10:40, egtdude wrote:
    <BR>I´d love it if you could scan them for me. <a href="mailto:[email protected][addsig" target="_new">[email protected][addsig</a>]
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    <BR> Sure I´ll work on it tonight...
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    <BR> 07-05-2003 at 11:16, Jeffescortlx wrote:
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    <BR> 07-05-2003 at 03:23, dj4monie wrote:
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    <BR> I don´t think you can do that for under $1,500 and I don´t like buying a ton of used stuff unless I know where it´s been.
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    <BR>I have around $500 invested, I have EXP turbo/mani/down pipe, cartech FMU, Intercooler and BOV.
    <BR>I still need 24# injectors, A-FPR and Gauges.
    <BR>I should be way below the $1500 mark. ;-)
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    <BR> Hmm, instead of the FMU couldn´t I just pull the ECU from a Thunderbird Turbo Coupe? A lot of those in the junkyard...
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    <BR> Intercooler is prolly from another car I take it. No aftermarket intercooler is gong to go under $500 and I don´t like alot of cutting. So it would have to be minor cuts at the most.
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    <BR> So you run a FMU and a still need to run a 1:1 ratio regulator? 24lbs injectors you can get from a Mustang GT. Gauges? EGT, Boost and Fuel presssure is all I would use. EGT and Fuel Pressure won´t be cheap overall though.
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    <BR> I dunno, if I wanna pick up a Escort GT and re-ring it just so I can drop about 10psi on it.
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    <BR> If you can show me where to find a the EXP/Escort GT turbo manifold at cheap, I might be interested.
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    <BR> 07-05-2003 at 03:23, dj4monie wrote:
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    <BR> I don´t think you can do that for under $1,500 and I don´t like buying a ton of used stuff unless I know where it´s been.
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    <BR> Oh yeah, instead of trying more boost, I would find some slicks or drag radials. Your car is fast enough to run mid to low 14´s as-is. More boost and you´ll be running 13´s.
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    <BR>I have around $500 invested, I have EXP turbo/mani/down pipe, cartech FMU, Intercooler and BOV.
    <BR>I still need 24# injectors, A-FPR and Gauges.
    <BR>I should be way below the $1500 mark. ;-)
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    <BR> 06-05-2003 at 03:20, dj4monie wrote:
    <BR> I´m going to look at some Escort GT´s over the next couple of days.
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    <BR> I have one of the older Ford High Performance manuals from the mid 80´s and I still have the Roush buildup for an 1.9L Escort engine with dual webers and an SVO solid lifter cam.
    <BR>
    <BR> Sadly alot of those parts aren´t available any more and I´m more of an EFI guy anyway.
    <BR>
    <BR> So my goal for the 1.9L H.O engine is to at least keep up with D series Hondas, most of them about the same weight.
    <BR>
    <BR> I figure I need about 140hp to be competitive and about 150-160hp to be able to beat them on a regular basis, which means high 14 second 1/4 miles.
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    <BR> Maybe I can, maybe I can´t that´s why I´m posting. Let me list when I think I need and I welcome your input -
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    <BR> Starting off with a high mileage engine. Not the best place to start, but I have bigger plans down road and I don´t wanna spent a ton in making it faster. If all I can get is mid to low 15´s on drag radials I´ll be happy, that´s faster than most Escort GT´s anyway.
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    <BR> 1.9L H.O block and head
    <BR> Junkyard H.O head - milled for 11:1 compression and ported by GUDE
    <BR> OEM H.O camshaft, Crane springs, new seals, etc during porting
    <BR> Port-match and Ported Intake Manifold
    <BR> EscortFocus Performance 50mm throttle body
    <BR> Port Match and Ported OEM H.O exhaust manifold
    <BR> EscortFocus Performance underdrive pulley (25%)
    <BR> Accel Kool Flow Kit (Ram Air type CAI kit)
    <BR> Diablo Chip 6500rpm with two maps - 91 octane and 100 octane unleaded
    <BR> 2.25" Mandel Bent Exhaust with resonator and straight-though muffler
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    <BR> I haven´t priced it out totally, but I figure about $1,500 should cover most of it. The GUDE head would be about $500. 2 map Diablo chip is about $300, Accel´s Kool Flow kit is $200, seems kinda high, but I can prolly find it cheaper at Summit or Jegs or PAW locally
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    <BR> Peak numbers -
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    <BR> Straighting out the exhaust should be worth about 10hp
    <BR> Basic clean up and porting of the head with intake - 10-12hp
    <BR> Throttlebody and CAI - 10-12hp
    <BR> Chips and tunng - 10-12hp on 91 map, 12-14hp on 100 octane map
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    <BR> All that should take me from just over 90hp at the wheels to around 130-140hp peak, but between 4000-6500rpm it should scream, for an Escort...
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    <BR> Comments, Opinons?
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    <BR> Anthony Thomas
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    <BR>[ This message was edited by: dj4monie on 06-05-2003 03:22 ]
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    <BR> Well I submitted the same info to www.escortfocus.com and he responded on Thur.
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    <BR> He told me I can expect 150-160hp out of such a setup. He did it with a ´87 Escort GT and it ran mid 14´s at around 93-94mph But he did have one of his cams in that car. I´m not big on regrinds or nor regrinds that cost over $300 and I have to use high rev springs also. So I would expect it to run a bit slower. I´d say about a 1-2mph drop in trap speed. So it would still run 14´s but at 91-92mph with slick or drag radials...
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    <BR> Here´s the e-mail thought I would share -
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    <BR><b>About 170 is achievable in naturally aspirated form. That is without any power adders like NOS, turbo, or a supercharger.
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    <BR>An 85-1/2 1.9L I personally build several years ran very well. It would walk on a stock 5.0L Mustang GT from a roll. I´ve also pulled on several 275 hp Z-28 Camero´s from a roll. Off the line the car would just smoke the tires so that was the wrong way to race. Also, the V-8 cars would come around on top end, up past 100 mph, but I could hold them off through a rolling quarter mile. On the dragstrip it ran upper-mid 14 second times at 93 mph with slicks, or about 1 full second and 2-3 mph less with street tires. With the engine built up, it still could get over 49 mpg on the highway at 60 mph. With all the abuse, the only thing I broke was 2 motor mounts. The engine was reved to 6,500 rpm in each gear.
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    <BR>The basic car had no power steering and had a 4 speed trans. It was a base model, but had dealer A/C.
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    <BR>The bottom end was stock but was re-ringed.
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    <BR>The cylinder head was fully ported and milled .060 to raise the compression a bit. It used the stock valves. I used the double valve springs and a cam ground almost exactly like our 1C1C84C hydraulic cam. It was degreed in 4 (crank) degrees retarded. These pictures are from the same old head I used then.
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    <BR>The intake was stock except it was cut apart to be ported and then rewelded. It had an adapter plate for a Holley 2bbl carb. The hot water passage was blocked off at the head to keep the intake mixture cool. The carb was a modified 500 cfm Holley 2bbl. The stock mechanical fuel pump provided alll the fuel pressure necessary so was never changed. I also made an air filter housing that used a K&N filter.The housing mated up to a 1983 Mustang GT hood scoop and provided a source of cool air fed from the windshield area which is under higher pressure at speed.
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    <BR>The exhaust was the stock 2" system with the converter removed. I used the same muffler as we sell now and at 6500 rpm / full throttle, had only 1/2 psi backpressure. I used a Hooker 4 into 1 header which had 1-1/2" primary tubes with a 2-1/2" collector.
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    <BR>I also used a larger alternator pulley to slow it down and save a couple of hp. Also, I used the oil pan evacuation system to relieve the crankcase pressure. (less pressure below the piston makes more power.)
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    <BR>The ignition system was basically stock. I had 8mm spiral core wires and modified spark plugs (side-gapped) and a high output coil. The tip of the rotor was extended as far as possible in the distributor cap. The base timing was advanced about 3 degrees and I believe I had a lighter spring in the centrifucial advance mechanism.
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    <BR>I ran all synthetic oils in the engine and transaxle. The alignment was set for minimum rolling resistance. I had a 3/4" add-on sway bar in the rear and all poly bushings in both sway bars. Also had Monroe gas struts front and rear.
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    <BR>It still took a lot of work to get the car to run this hard. Most of it was in figuring out the carburetion and getting it dialed in. For instance, in a 4 cylinder engine with a carb, uncapping the exhaust enrichens the fuel mixture, so it needed leaned.
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    <BR>At the same time we built an 87 GT 5 speed the same way, using all the same parts as possible. We used the stock 87 intake and fuel injection setup. The inlet hose was replaced with a larger smooth one (a truck radiator hose that just happened to fit after trimming) and the intake manifold, throttle body, and the vane type air-flow meter were ported. It also used the factory GT headed. It ran equally well as the other car and seemed to pull slightly better at the top of the quarter mile, best of 94 mph. On this car we also tried 40mm downdraught Weber carbs. It ran as well as the F.I setup but no better. It did look sweet under the hood.
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    <BR>We still can get the cams reground and it made a considerable difference in the GT car as it was the last thing we done to it.</b>
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    <BR> 07-05-2003 at 11:16, Jeffescortlx wrote:
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    <BR> 07-05-2003 at 03:23, dj4monie wrote:
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    <BR> I don´t think you can do that for under $1,500 and I don´t like buying a ton of used stuff unless I know where it´s been.
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    <BR>I have around $500 invested, I have EXP turbo/mani/down pipe, cartech FMU, Intercooler and BOV.
    <BR>I still need 24# injectors, A-FPR and Gauges.
    <BR>I should be way below the $1500 mark. ;-)
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    <BR> Hmm, instead of the FMU couldn´t I just pull the ECU from a Thunderbird Turbo Coupe? A lot of those in the junkyard...
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    <BR> Intercooler is prolly from another car I take it. No aftermarket intercooler is gong to go under $500 and I don´t like alot of cutting. So it would have to be minor cuts at the most.
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    <BR> So you run a FMU and a still need to run a 1:1 ratio regulator? 24lbs injectors you can get from a Mustang GT. Gauges? EGT, Boost and Fuel presssure is all I would use. EGT and Fuel Pressure won´t be cheap overall though.
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    <BR> I dunno, if I wanna pick up a Escort GT and re-ring it just so I can drop about 10psi on it.
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    <BR> If you can show me where to find a the EXP/Escort GT turbo manifold at cheap, I might be interested.
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    <BR>A ECU will work from a EXP/TC for a firt gen Escort but not a second gen.
    <BR>I have a $30 IC from a probe.
    <BR>The FMU is for boost fuel pressure, the A-FPR is to turn the idle fuel pressure down so the 24# injectors don´t run it rich at idle.
    <BR>24# injectors are only used in Mustang Cobra ect... the narmal V8 GT use the same 19# like I have stock allready.
    <BR>I would allso use a A/F gauge.
  15. 1982 EXPert

    1982 EXPert FEOA Member

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    Does anyone have the above mentioned book?
    I can't see it in this thread, the scripting failed for the whole discussion here so I can't view anymore than the script itself.

    Or if someone just has a working link to the book somewhere that would be great!

    Thanks!
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    This thread is all screwed up, the only reason I could find it again is because I had it bookmarked.

    Anyway, what is the book you are referring to?
    Or are you also trying to find the name of the book in the above mess?
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    Joey, yeah I'm trying to find the Motorsport manual and Roush build-up that "dj4monie" both mentioned above in the first posting of this messed-up thread...
    I think I have access to the Motorsport catalog he was talking about but I can't tell....

    What I want the most is that Roush build-up list/manual because I can't find anything CVH with Roush. I've seen some of the 1.9s Roush made for rear-engine race cars, all SCCA sealed and certified, and I know he and SVO tuned the engines for the LN7 and EXP pace cars but I can't find any literature on any of his CVH work online.....
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    The 1.9 CVH Spec Racer Ford SCCA engines are all being replaced by the 1.6 out of the newer Fiesta. You might find an older used race motor fairly cheap.

    Unfortunately, the SCCA 1.9 is not much over stock in the way of performance. It was a sealed Spec-engine built with longevity/ reliability in mind--not max hp.
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    Perhaps this is it. The images aren't the greatest, when I used a flash on the camera I got glare, so had to use ambient lighting:

    Ford SVO Catalog 1986 002.JPG
    Ford SVO Catalog 1986 005.JPG
    Ford SVO Catalog 1986 008.JPG
    Ford SVO Catalog 1986 009.JPG
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    I don't know if that's the one or not but it sure is awesome! Thanks for sharing! These are pretty hard to come by.....

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