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not as simple as you think... yes it will mount properly... but you will need to buy a lot more than just the motor... wiring harness from a GT, MS or other fuel mapping aide, a lot more stuff that I don't care to list, and all the stuff that might be missing from a GTX or GTR engine that you might be able to get your hands on. look around at the milliond of other threads on this one then decide what to do, they are everywhere.

edit: I am not sure actually if the LX auto will bolt up properly, you may have to switch that out for a GT trans as well...
 

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escortlx96 said:
neuspeedescort said:
only if the auto tranny is a 1.8L tranny. a 1.9L and 1.8L are totally different bell housings.

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The 1.8 and 1.9 engines share the same auto tranny.All the parts are the same according to my ford manual.
according to my history.
1 - spi swap
1 - gtx swap
1 - 1.9L clutch replacement
3 - 1.8L tranny swaps
2 - 1.8L clutchs
more Junkyard time then you can piss at

along with knowing that the bell housing is a total different size just by looking at it. your ford maual which im guessing is a chiltons or haynes is 100% wrong. yes the bolt pattern follows somewhat of the same pattern it is a different in physcial size. 1.8L takes all 14mm bolts. the 1.9L/2.0L take 13mm bolts and a few less across the bottom half. the bolck size is different so teh trannies can not be the same.

i have a 1.9L motor sitting in my driveway from 91sleepers car. if you want to second guess my knowledge i could grab one of my 2 extra trannies i have for a 1.8L and size it all up.

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The internals for both ATX's are the same...they are both 4EAT transmissions....BUT.....BUT.....BUT......the bellhousing setup for the each tranny is different.
One is designed to fit the Mazda 1.8l...and the other is designed to fit the Ford 1.9l.

Doesn't get simpler than that!

Neuman has got it bang on right there ;)
 

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skuce is correct also. the internals are teh same design but the size of the parts are different. i used to have a 1.9L tranny in pieces in my garage and compared to the 1.8L they are weak. the gears are not as wide. i don't think the 1.9L/2.0L tranny could handle 400hp as easy as the 1.8L can.

escortlx96 - it sucks that the ford manual says that cause its wrong in doing so. unless its talking about teh fact it uses the same configuration design.


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i dont care wtf manual you or anybody else has. we all know what does and doesnt fit, and the bellhousings are different.

the Ford manual, knowing ford as we do, wont tell you that. it'll just say both are the F4EAT.
 

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Of what I've heard over ther year and on this board, the autotranny will fit on a 1.8 or 1.9. But the manuel not.
I know that my firend car have an auto tranny with 1.8 on it, but it's an aspire, so.
Also, one thing I'm sure, just one mount is not at the correct position, but with some tool, it's easy to move it. And if my memory is correct, it's the front left mount.

And I'll ask my mechanic, he work for ford and did a lot of swap!
 

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I don't know why, but after being for about 1 year here, I've seen that question, and I remember somewhere (maybe I'm wrong) that someone said that and everyone seems to agree...

Like I said, I'll speak with my mechanic about that!
 

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If the BP blocks are the same auto or 5speed and the 1.9 blocks are the same auto or 5speed and you can not swap 5speed trannies between 1.8 and 1.9 blocks why would the auto's swap?
 

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Guys, would you freaking LISTEN to the people who have ACTUALLY DONE the swap, and compared different parts?? Why argue with someone who knows their $hit top to bottom and inside out? Instead, why not use their great wealth of knowledge to increase your own?

The 1.9L FORD block is WAY different than the 1.8L MAZDA block. The F4EAT automatic transmission is used on both engines, but has DIFFERENT BELL HOUSINGS!!! This means that an auto tranny from a 1.9L, and an auto tranny from a 1.8L are BOTH called tha F4EAT, but WILL NOT bolt up to both engines.

to put a BP in an LX, you will need a tranny meant to bolt to a BP, as well as the lower motormount brackets. then you can bolt it right in, and it will fit. Then, you'll need a BP ECU and engine harness, axles for the BP tranny, and a bunch of other stuff that you can find out about in the HOWTOs and in other posts....

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when i had my Lx long ago i did the auto to 5speed swap. and i did not have to swap to a "5speed motor" to make it a 5speed. i just put the 5speed tranny in. and then i did the Lx to 1.8(GTX) swap. I had both trannys next to each other and the bell housing are different. even the bolts that fit in the 1.9L motor dont screw into the 1.8L motor. The motor mounts dont even work between the two trannys. the bolt holes on a 1.9L dont line up on a 1.8L tranny.
 

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SgtRauksauff said:
The 1.9L FORD block is WAY different than the 1.8L MAZDA block. The F4EAT automatic transmission is used on both engines, but has DIFFERENT BELL HOUSINGS!!! This means that an auto tranny from a 1.9L, and an auto tranny from a 1.8L are BOTH called tha F4EAT, but WILL NOT bolt up to both engines.
OK so if I understand correctly, I can use a 1.8 tranny on my 1.9 as long as it's a auto?....bwhhahahaha.
 
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