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01-03 Protege Rotor Upgrade

Discussion in 'Wheels/Tires/Brakes' started by 1Sleepy93, Oct 15, 2005.

  1. EGT-Eric

    EGT-Eric FEOA Member

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    Ah.... I was misinformed sorry my bad dood. I already bough gt upgrades w/ceramic pads and dot 4 fluid though so maybe nxt time.
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    anyone know teh year the Lx's switched the the bigger F brakes?
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    It's mixed on 93's so I'd say 94 probably. Easy way to find out is just to look at the caliper for the 14V.
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    bump for great info
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    Someone should sticky this since I've noticed quite a few brake upgrade questions again.
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    +1

    i bought these 3rd gen protege rotors (brembo blanks) and put them on my new car... they work great.
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    Question!
    My 93 Pony (stock 13" wheels) have the smaller brakes. They either suck (got used to the larger brakes on the 96lx) or there's somthing wrong with them. But I feel like I have to stand on the pedal to get the car to slow down.

    Anyways, If I want to upgrade to the 10" rotor do I need to change the caliper and the knuckel/bearing caryer or just the caliper to use the larger rotor?
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    Jeffescortlx FEOA Member

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    BUMP!
    ....err double post ownz me.
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    Almost positive you have to change out the hub to go with the larger brakes. So go find yourself a LX and snag it's larger rotor goodies! :)

    Oh and the 9 inchers SUCK!!! :p
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    yeah you need the whole spindle. the caliper itself is actually the same, just the outer bracket that bolts to it which holds the pads is different.

    you can get the spindles from:
    91-96 lx
    97+ lx/se/zx2
    90-94 protege LX
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    my first escort was a 93 lx. it had had the small 9 inch set up....ohhh did that suck. the 9" cant compare to the later 10" set up it cost me a couple of fender benders nothing considered my fault but if i had the 10" set up like on my gt or my 96 lx(god rest its rusty soul) i would have never had those issues.
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    Well chit, I never would of guessed they used the same caliper for both size rotor's. How about the pads, they must be the same size to.
    Thanks for the info, there's a few fresh 3rd gen's at the u-pull I'll have to hit up.
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    nope the pads are actually different... the 10 inch pads have more friction surface area. you could use the smaller pads, but that would kind of defeat the purpose.

    as i said only the inside half of the caliper is the same... the part with the piston in it. the bracket that you see if you look through the spokes of the wheel at the caliper is the only part that is different.
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    I know I'm dredging up a dusty thread here, but just a tad bit more info after having done this upgrade.

    Ordered Brembo blanks and Techna-Fit SS lines from BuyBrakes.com, shipping was free & quick (part #s & prices for reference). FYI this was the 01-03 Protege fronts & 9-1-96 GT disc rears (my 97 is swapped).
    Ordered: 2 BR25574 Brembo Ventilated Brake Disc (Single Rotor)
    $46.70
    Ordered: 2 BR25187 Brembo Solid Brake Disc (Single Rotor)
    $29.20
    Ordered: 1 FORD-1100 Techna-Fit Stainless Steel Brake Lines
    $100.00

    I also got some Satisfied Gransport GS-6 pads after reading good reviews (I do autocross off/on with this car). I got them from JCWhitney on special for $24.99/set + free shipping (I bought some other stuff to bump up the cart value to get the free shipping). Be warned it took around 3 weeks as one set was back ordered (and the overall service sucked, never provided shipping tracking etc)...but I'm cheap so I waited.

    Front
    Satisfied part: GS6D473
    JCW part: ZX277104
    http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Item ... 7510659851

    Rear
    Satisfied part: GS6D458
    JCW part: ZX277094
    http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Item ... 6510659850


    So in total it was about $300 for all 4 corners not including new/rebuild caliper costs.

    The front pads came with grease and caliper shims (which I was impressed by). The Brembo blanks are _superbly_ manufactured compared to parts store crap.
    The front pads + the 01 Protege rotors are _TIGHT_ when you put the pads in the calipers. I C-clamped the calipers all the way in from every angle, regreased the caliper slides so I could move things around as much as possible...and I had to use a rubber mallet to tap in the second pad.
    The break-in was a little scary, as I could feel that there was some dragging up front at first. By the end of the break-in (20 stops from 30->15 w/ 30s in between), things were loosening up. However, the fronts seemed quite hot/stinky at various points. Hopefully nothing ends up overheated/glazed from the tight fit...I'll be re-checking the fronts & adjusting the rears after a few hundred miles.
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    it seems to depend on the brand of pads you use, because i had zero problems with my KVR pads. i have heard of others having issues, though.

    you do need to eliminate the shims up front in order to do this.... they really dont do anything, i promise. just put a dab of caliper grease on the back of the pad instead.
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    I used Hawk pads and had no problems but I also didn't use any shims either.
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    Funny you mention this...after seeing the thread below (right after I wrote my last post), I pulled my shims off (and probably will when they're only held on with adhesive from now on).
    http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=229916

    Everything fits much better now.
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    Pad install tips

    Since there isn't any wiggle room when getting the second pad in, you need to hold it parallel to the caliper & rotor, a little bit of angle and it will bind up.

    Use two lug nuts to hold the rotor securely against the hub while messing with the pads.

    When you slide the caliper all the way in or out, it will spring back a little when you let go (unless it's sticky). Install the inner pad, then pull the caliper out & hold it with one hand while installing the outer pad.

    I had no problem with Power Slot rotors & Satisfied Pro ceramic pads (with shims), it was snug enough to have slight drag sliding the pad in, but it only took light pressure with one hand.
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    did you go with the protege rotors, though? thats what this thread is about... they are thicker than stock, making the clearance VERY tight with brand new rotors and pads.
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    Yes, Protege rotors & Escort pads, I checked the part numbers against those posted by coldblooded.

    Wait-- I still had the old stuff set aside, I took out the old shims, there were actually 4 per wheel, The new pads came with one shim on each pad so that's 2 per wheel.

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