Discussion in '3rd Gen 1997-2002 2.0L SOHC' started by Dan GSR, Jan 14, 2017.
New to escorts. Lots of good info so far
Picked this up yesterday with only 34k on the odometer
Let me guess - automatic transmission and wind up windows?
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That's must of been a old granny car.
I would rebuild the head for new hardened valve seats. (They fall out and damage the engine if you didn't know)
Do all the fluids..with such low miles that car sat for long periods.
Oh and inspect your tires for dry rotting..I would also look at the brake hoses.
Congrats ...nice car.
Auto , and power windows
Tires are 7 years old. Getting snow tires
percentage of failure rate?
i have no desire to rebuild the head
There really isn't a percentage..it happens to all.
so you're saying its a 100% failure rate?
Yep...they all suffer the same fate. There is a tread on dropped valve seats and when it happened as far as mileage.
I've seen it at all kinds of mileage..80k, 95k,127k ,150k
good to know
looks like mostly high miles, i'll roll the dice since mine only has 34k
this car just went from, i hope it gives me 10 good years, to sell it after two
I've never personally seen a "low mile" seat drop... Have seen them from 121K-277K though... From what I've been able to observe- it seems that it is far more likely to occur after a cooling system failure... Once the engine overheats once- look out!
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No, it doesn't happen to every car. I bought my 97 with 32K, it had around 110K when I sold it and I never had the problem. The biggest factor that seems to trigger it is overheating the engine so keep the cooling system properly maintained and it will last a good long time. Another thing is vac leaks, usually caused by a cracked PCV line which attaches to the intake near the intake runner of the cylinder that usually drops the seat (#3).
I dont know what percentage of the Escorts have had dropped valve seat inserts, but it does not seem to me to be very high. I think a lot more of them get to junkyards from other types of failures; blown headgaskets, worn out automatic transmissions, broken timing belts, rusted up shifters on the 5-speeds, burnt out clutches, cancer, or crash damage. It doesnt take much to kill an economy car that is 25 years old and needs a repair costing more than $500.
I own four 2nd gen Escorts; have two others in the family; all in use as daily drivers.
At least our Escorts arent an 'interference engine' design, like many Hondas are.
That's funny because all the ones I see at my local yard are perfect exterior wise ..dropped valve seat caused it to be there
Not being a jerk but I'm a mechanic, It happens to them all you just don't know when or miles .
Also happens to the focus with the split port motor.
I agree with Denisond3.
It was never overheated throughout it's entire life. Sold mine with nearly 330k on the clock due to cancer. I did sort of cheat though. After the head gasket replacement and cracked-head repair at 190k, I ran it cold from then on. I purposefully reused the bad thermostat housing and when that gradually got to be ridiculously cold, swapped it to a good one while installing a cold thermostat. My intent was to help limit the amount of scrubbing the head gasket saw, thereby extending it's life. There were signs that the OEM was leaking as early as 150k. By 190k I pretty much had no choice but to replace the H-Gasket. On a cold morning it would cloud up the block.
I've seen plenty at my local yard rusted out to the point that they won't pass inspection. Rust is the reason I sold mine. A friend bought one a year or two ago with 75K miles and I failed it for inspection for several things in addition due to structural rust. Poor sap didn't ask anybody look at it before he bought it and ended up with a $1K paperweight.
None of them rust out here in cali.
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