2002 escort idle vibration

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  1. buzzyj

    buzzyj FEOA Member

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    My 2002 escort idle vibration has been driving me nuts for all 10 years since I've owned this car! It had just over 58000 miles when I bought it, and has just over 70000 now. I got all 4 motor and transmission motor mounts replaced with new ones, and it didn't help at all. There IS a TSB (for all escorts between 1997 and 2002) addressing this Idle Vibration problem. I've got a copy of it here in front of me. It's called "Article No. 03-15-15 and it shows 28 steps which I guess is to reposition the engine (I think someone once called it neutralizing it). My car is automatic transmission. Anyway, I'm posting in the hope of finding someone here in this area, Binghamton, NY who knows that they have performed this SPECIFIC Procedure on a Ford Escort of the years 1997 thru 2002. I'd be willing to travel 100 miles to get it done---maybe even a little farther than that. That's how much this problem bugs me!!!!!!!!!
    Can I hear from a "good" mechanic who is quite certain that they can help me????
    Thanks MUCH!
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    I have the same problem with my 99 Ford Escort wagon. I've tried everything under the sun and so far nothing works. I did come across a possible procedure that I have not tried, but I will in the future when I have the time. The procedure is to loosen all four motor mounts, measure the height of the oil pan from the floor. Then jack the motor up as far as it can go without breaking anything, then lower the engine a little bit. Then you torque the motor mounts to 67 ft. lbs. Weather it works or not, I don't know. But it might be worth a try.
    I also tried that TSB procedure with a new motor mount brace and it still did not work.
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    Thanks very much for your post, Mike!!! I'm a real old guy Mike, and NOT a mechanic at all, so I can't try your idea, but I sure hope it works for you!! Man, this damn vibration can really get to us!
    Again, good luck!!!!!!
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    For what it is worth. By mistake I installed the front motor mount bracket backwards. I found it was mashing in the plastic rad shroud so I reversed it. When it was in the wrong direction the vibrations were for the most part gone, well a lot less than most Escorts. After putting the bracket in the correct way the vibrations were very bad.
    I think it all depends on how the engine is setting in the mounts.
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    Thanks for your post, BR! Could you tell me what you finally did about your "idle vibration"? Did you finally install the front motor mount bracket forward, as it should be installed? If so then your car was left with a "very bad vibration" as you said. So then you just "lived" with that "very bad vibration"????
    Thanks again for your post!
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    Mount installed in stock direction. Vibrations at idle are bad even with no AC turned on. The 17 year old driver even complains to me. I said all Escort do that, better than walking, (with big smile on my face). :)
    I had one of the bolts come loose in the upper belt cover. I had put all the bolts in using the correct torque. I went back and put medium strength loctite on them.
    I was looking at a 2004 Corolla motor mounts. They look a lot like the ones on an Escort but with some extra dampening attachments. That Corolla is very smooth. I am thinking about doing some experiments next summer using JY mounts from other cars. Ford engineers could have done better.
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    Thanks a ton, bent_rod for this follow-up post! Your idea of possibly using motor mounts from other cars, sounds like a BRILLIANT idea to me!!!! Just imagine how much grief it would save so many people, if it could be done! Also, could you possibly tell me what "JY" in JY mounts stands for? Please forgive my lack of knowledge.
    buzzyj
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    JY = JunkYard, most now days are Pick N Pull.
    Unfortunately mounts from a different car most likely wouldn't be plug and play. Welding and or machine shop work required.
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    Thanks again, bent_rod!!!!!
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    They only rattle when stopped idling at a light..hit the gas and go and it's all smooth.
    Every car has a trait , it is a bit annoying but it is what it is.
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    I'm very disappointed that I didn't get even one reply, from someone within 100 miles of Binghamton, NY, who might be able to perform the "Idle Vibration TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) procedure on my 2002 Escort. There must be at least a MILLION people within this geographical area, when you consider Syracuse, NY, and Scranton, Pa within this area. I guess maybe if there is someone who could do the work, they just aren't reading FEOA. DRAT!!!!!
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    Yeah they are not desired cars.
    So imo this forum is small.
    Mustang or corvette there is tons of people.
    Lol
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    Thanks for your posts, 04Svt!!! I've lived with the problem for about 10 years, so I guess I can live with it for a few more, if need be. (I'm 83, so I probably won't be around (or driving) for very much longer.)
    Thanks again!!!!!!!

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